President Trump

Discussion in 'Politics, Religion and Philosophy -(FORUM CLOSED)-' started by TIME, Jan 20, 2017.

  1. 432J

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    i'm the brainwashed one? haha

    what does clinton's affair with lewinsky have to do with your claim that he raped/sexually abused women? no one's denying that clinton doesn't have a shady past in regards to this. trump had numerous extramarital affairs, is that proof he raped someone?

    none of what you said is evidence that clinton raped or sexually abused someone. those are all accusations, just like how there are dozens and dozens of accusations that trump raped and sexually abused women. if there was solid evidence that bill clinton raped or sexually abused a woman, then i would say yeah, you're absolutely right because there is actual evidence out there linking him to a sexual crime. but there isn't. again, both clinton and trump had a long relationship with epstein. to call out clinton for it and not trump is hypocritical
     
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    Ok... which one of you is this? :D

     
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    Get woke baby
     
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    so trump canceled goodyear?

    i thought the right hates "cancel culture"?
     
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    LOL the right calls it boycott, 3.3% stock down barely a minute later, now that's powaa
     
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    Recently, I have been going back and watching videos on Youtube of MSNBC, CNN and other left wing media outlets and their reaction to the 2016 election as it was unfolding and right after. They sat there and talked about how they were wrong and there were a lot of silent Trump voters. Some in the media actually took blame in Trump being elected, acknowledging the fact they pushed people to do it.

    Fast forward to 2020 and they are doing the exact same things they were before. Add to that these cities ran by Democrats like Portland and Chicago that are burning to the ground without the local governments doing anything because they are afraid they won't win reelection if they stand up to criminals. Left wing politicians are enacting draconian measures in response to COVID where a more balanced, thoughtful approach is needed.

    Never thought I'd say this, but I am very close to voting for Trump. I live in CA so my vote doesn't matter anyway, but I might vote for him out of pure spite.
     
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    how is CA's response to covid "draconian"? and what would be a "more balanced, thoughtful approach" like you say?
     
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    Clinton's affair and LIES regarding it is evidence that he can't control himself around women.... You are delusional. See ya.
     
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    neither having an affair nor lying are evidence that someone is guilty of rape. in that case, donald trump is guilty of rape
     
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    This is a fair point.
     
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    Another fair point.

    I think it’s like this. Trump did have a relationship with Epstein. Nobody knows how deep it was, we only have hearsay stories, but to deny he did have a relationship with him is not being genuine. @432J never said anything bad about it, which I respect, but he does make an excellent point that I think should be looked at.
     
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    It is exactly how Trump won last time. People don't actually vote that much for Trump, they vote against the Democrats because they have such a losing agenda.
     
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    define losing agenda

    you do know that only once in the past 28 years has a GOP POTUS won the popular vote, right? that's pretty crazy when you think about it. the majority of americans have wanted a democrat president in every election except one for nearly 30 years. doesn't sound like a losing agenda to me when most americans vote for you election after election
     
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    Come on now... that's a disingenuous statement. Why do you think that is? Two of the most populous states, California and New York, are Democrat. Because most states are winner take all, the Democrats can always count on their two strongholds. But, this is precisely the reason why we have the Electoral College to prevent the minority speaking for the majority of Americans. This map shows distinctly what happened in 2016:

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    so we should value the votes of people living in the south or midwest higher than those living in LA and NY? the votes of people living in LA and NY count the same as one's living in the south or midwest
     
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    Cities vote liberal, suburbs vote conservative.
     
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    Pientka is the FBI investigator who wrote the notes for the original FD-302 form while Flynn was being interviewed.
     
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    Not sure where you're going with this... I'm stating this is the reason why the Electoral College was established. You should know this. The wisdom and foresight of the founding fathers was amazing!

    The votes of all people count so that should be the clarion call to the democrats. To court those votes, democrats should come up with a policies that appeal to all Americans. Clearly, they didn't have a winning plan in 2016 and it appears that there is no substantive policy now.
     
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