President Trump

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    we don't know why trump ended his relationship with epstein. according to some, it was because epstein hit on an underage daughter of a mar a lago member. other reports say it was because the two got into a bidding war over some property in FL and had a falling out after that

    yes, clinton was friends with epstein. no one's denying that. but so was trump
     
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    Sacrificial lamb? Trump needs a bigger fish his base can laugh at like Creepy Porn Lawyer:LLLLLebronlaughing:
     
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    A plea deal requires both sides to give something up. What is Clinesmith giving the DOJ?
     
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    Julian Assange is my guess.
     
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    I don’t like when Trump shenanigans are excused by his base as “well he’s just trolling”.

    But I can’t lie, this does seem like a troll job. And a legitimately funny and well executed one. This is so inconsequential that really nobody should care about this one way or another. But I bet it does prompt some sudden outlash against Susan B Anthony from the left.
     
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    with the DNC going on, it got me thinking what an absolute sh**show the RNC is gonna be this year

    all the moderates jumped ship already, so it's basically just the nutjobs left at this point. looking at the lineup of speakers, it looks like it's gonna be one giant trollfest. i expect lots and lots of whining about cancel culture, political correctness, "they will move into the suburbs and destroy your way of life," covid being a hoax, etc
     
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    It will be interesting to say the least. I still think Biden should have named Kasich his VP. Sure he's a Republican (he is super moderate), but Biden is already saying this is going to be 4 year thing for him. His message is to unite the country. What better way than to basically run as two moderates, one slightly left of center (which Biden is) and one slightly right of center (like Kasich)? Biden and Kasich are probably closer politically than Biden and Harris.
     
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    what a troll:Laugh:
     
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    Epstein was friends with a lot of people. Rich people hang out with rich people. The problem is, Trump has never been accused by any of these girls for acting inappropriately. Trump cut ties with Epstein should be enough evidence for you to assume that Epstein had nothing against Trump. If Epstein had anything that could be used against Trump, Trump would have let him win the bidding war and also, wouldn't have cut ties with Epstein for harassing Mar-A-Lago members. Clinton on the other hand... He's had a history of sexual abuse and lying about it. He was caught riding with Epstein's jet numerous times, has been accused of acting inappropriately, and his family is much closer to Epstein than Trump was. Clinton, by all accounts, still remained friends with Epstein until his death.
     
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    It's funny how deep of a trench you are willing to dig to imply that Trump had a close relationship with Epstein in order to frame him for something that could easily be disproven. If Trump was truly into what Epstein was doing, why did he cut ties with Epstein? If the reasoning was that Epstein and him got into a bidding war, why would Trump openly bid against him? Why would Trump ban Epstein from Mar-A-Lago if they were truly that close? Furthermore, why did a prosecutor openly state that Trump was the only person who wanted to testify against Epstein? One thing we know about Trump is he's a savage who holds grudges. That falls in line with why Trump would want to testify against Epstein. I say all this for the obvious: If Epstein was truly close with Trump and Trump was involved with the sexual abuse of girls, why didn't he use any of that to blackmail Trump? Why would Trump openly get into a bidding war with Epstein, ban Epstein, and volunteer to testify against him if Epstein had any information regarding Trump and any wrongdoing? Hint: Because Epstein had nothing against Trump. They were rich individuals who hung out in the same crowd and got to know each other. Am I supposed to believe that everyone who was associated with Harvey Weinstein was also involved with his inappropriate behavior? Here's the difference between Trump and Clinton: Clinton was caught lying and abused women. Clinton was on the flight records... Ghislaine Maxwell was a guest in Chelsea Clinton's wedding. Epstein has a painting of Bill in his home... Epstein's accuser said Bill Clinton asked her for a massage. Now, ask yourself... why are there even pictures of Bill getting a massage from a young woman? Nice try but if Trump was in on it, Maxwell would have blown the whistle by now because she would have gotten the deal of a lifetime with that info.
     
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    never said trump was involved in pedophilia or any of the other sick s*** epstein was. there's no evidence that would back up such a claim

    just think it's hypocritical for anyone to call out clinton for having a relationship with epstein, when trump did as well
     
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    It's not hypocritical at all because they're calling out Clinton's relationship with Epstein in regards to underaged and sexual abuse of females. Unless you have any evidence suggesting Trump is in that same category, there is no link between them.
     
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    is there evidence that clinton sexually abused women while in the company of epstein or on his property?
     
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    Yikes, do you really dislike Trump that much that you're willing to ignore Clinton's past?

    He lied about a sexual relationship that he had as the President of the United States.
    He was a frequent flyer on Epstein's private plane.
    An accuser of Epstein who was pictured with Prince Andrew's said Bill Clinton had been on the island and that the island was known for orgies...
    Bill Clinton is photographed getting a massage by someone who was sexually abused by Epstein.

    If you need a scientist to connect the dots for you, I'm sorry but it just shows the amount of hate that you have for Trump that you're willing to bypass Bill's terrible history of sexual abuse. Why was a former president getting a massage from an unknown girl who just so happens to have been sexually assaulted by Epstein? Why is a painting of Bill Clinton found in Epstein's home? Why was Ghislaine invited to Chelsea Clinton's wedding? There are way too many red flags with Bill's relationship with Epstein. The only thing you have with Trump and Epstein is that they were friends for a few years. Nice try.
     
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    do you have any evidence that clinton sexually abused girls while in the company of epstein or on his property?

    clinton's been accused of rape/sexual abuse by 4 different women. trump has been accused of the same by dozens. aside from accusations, there is no solid evidence that indicated that either one of them raped or sexually abused women

    a few years? lol. trump and epstein were friends going back to the mid-late 80's until 2007 or 08. look, i get that you worship trump, but there's just no way you can ignore that like clinton, he too had a relationship with epstein. there's no evidence that he visited epstein's island, but what does that change really? there's reports of trump/epstein hosting a party at mar a lago with just the two of them and 30 women. epstein was a frequent guest there and at trump's NY properties going back to the 80s, and trump was a frequent guest at epstein's properties in FL and NY also going back to the 80s

    i know hypocrisy doesn't exist in trumpworld, but to call clinton out for his ties to epstein and then try to act like trump had nothing to do with him is uh......hypocrisy
     
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    People like you are so brainwashed and incapable of using logic because you're blinded by hate.

    It's called an informative opinion. Bill Clinton being that exposed to Epstein isn't a coincidence. He lied about how many times he rode Epstein's plane (he said four but flight record showed much more than that), he lied about Monica Lewinsky for months until he couldn't fool the public anymore. Clinton wasn't only accused... he was impeached for lying under oath.

    'Hypocrisy.' No one is denying that Trump and Epstein weren't friends. We are talking about sexual matters regarding their conduct. You have no evidence of ANY kind that Trump acted inappropriately. We do have evidence that Clinton asked a victim of Epstein to give him a massage... we have evidence that Clinton lied about a sexual relationship that he had with someone nearly 30 years younger than him, we have evidence that Clinton rode on Epstein's plane many more times than he admitted to, and we also have evidence that Clinton had been accused of being spotted in Epstein's private island. Now tell me, was Trump ever impeached for a sex scandal, accused of being on Epstein's private island, photos of Trump getting a massage by one of Epstein's victims? No... your only ammunition is that Trump is friends with Epstein (who was also friends with many wealthy people). Oh wow, Trump went to his home in FL and NY? Michelle Obama said Harvey Weinstein is a great person. I guess Michelle Obama endorses rape!

    Stop being stupid. Hypocrisy doesn't apply here. The only thing that matters is that if Trump did what Bill Clinton did and there are photos of him with Epstein's victims, he'd be getting hit by the media left-and-right. Now you're calling me a hypocrite because you can't think straight?
     
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