Optimism Discussion: The Laker's Sky Is Not Falling

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  1. LTLakerFan

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    Jerry West weighs in on the Warriors and new-look Lakers


    http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-jerry-west-elliott-20161101-story.html



    Helene ElliottContact Reporter

    The surest way to get on Jerry West’s bad side, the best way to get him to bark in that familiar voice with its tendrils of a West Virginia twang, is to praise him.

    For reasons understood only by West — who subtitled his autobiography “My charmed, tormented life” — he detests being commended for anything, especially his charitable efforts. Not because he’d be found wanting: He has long supported a reading center at West Virginia University in memory of his older brother, David, who died in the Korean War, and he has backed various charities in Southern California through his life as a player, coach and executive with the Lakers and beyond.

    His distaste for acclaim, perhaps a product of his instinct to value the team above the individual, remains a constant in his personality at age 78. But that doesn’t mean his good work should be ignored.

    San Pedro-based Sharefest, which encourages volunteering in communities and helping youngsters mature into leaders, on Saturday will give West its Bill Sharman Humanitarian Award, named for the late Lakers Hall of Fame coach and executive. Sharman’s widow, Joyce, will chair the event, which will celebrate West’s leadership in the community.

    Receiving an award named for Sharman is an achievement that even West must consider very much worth winning, right?

    “I’m not one who likes to be honored, to be honest with you. That’s never been who I am,” West said in a phone conversation last week. “Simply because of my involvement with Bill over the years and who he was as a person, I’m more than happy to accept it and try to make some of his and Joyce’s work in the community carry on.”

    That has been West’s mission, too, a less-public part of his life he has carried on through his role as an executive board member of the Golden State Warriorsand, always, a keen observer of the Lakers.

    West enjoyed almost unfathomable triumphs in the NBA with the Lakers as a player and as an executive who molded six championship teams. After he left the organization, he breathed life into the Memphis Grizzlies as their general manager and later brought his expertise to the Golden State Warriors. In 2015, they provided his seventh NBA championship as a team executive.

    Despite all his success — or maybe because of it — he still carries the memory of being a lonely kid who never believed he was good enough and had to work relentlessly for everything he had. If he can make it easier for other kids to realize the dreams that have come true for him, if his support for small charities can make a big impact on children who can use their education and leadership skills to improve their communities, he’s as happy as he was after any of his victories on the court.

    “Anything you can do to help someone, I just think it’s so important because there’s a lot of kids that look up athletes of all size and shapes in a lot of different fields, not necessarily in the basketball field,” he said. “They get involved emotionally with those people because there’s something about certain athletes that people rally around. I think the most important thing is when you walk away, do people think you were a good guy, along with being a productive person as a player?

    “I’ve always felt that, and I don’t want to understate how proud I was to play the game at maybe a little bit different level than most people and more importantly to feel like being involved with three organizations. It’s been fun for me to watch those organizations thrive and prosper. It’s been a huge part of my life.”

    And it always will be.

    His voice becomes infused with passion when he discusses the Warriors, whom he said “should be the most fun team in the league to watch because of the dynamics of a few of our players.” He added, “I hear people talk about sharing the ball, and that will not be a problem with this team at all, period. I think our biggest problem will be to really focus and compete on a higher level. Because every night you’re going to be getting the other team’s best shot because of all the things that are written about so-called super teams. That hasn’t been proven yet, but this is a very, very capable team, and some of the players we have are the most dynamic in basketball. To have that many on one team is probably unheard of.”

    He also likes the Lakers’ direction and the teach-first, worry-about-wins-later approach chosen by Coach Luke Walton, who was an assistant with the Warriors. The Lakers’ older players, West said, can play key roles in showing the younger ones how to be consistently competitive. “If they can play at a higher level I think that will encourage the younger players to be better players, to be players that can be productive not for now but a few years and to try to build a future and forget about the past,” West said.

    “I think too many people live in the past. And this is not the Lakers that many of our fans have watched over the years. This is, hopefully, the start of a new trend for them to be on the upswing and have some hope for the coming years. These young players that they have, and they have two, three young ones that are talented, those are the players that hopefully will become kind of iconic names in the city of Los Angeles.”

    That’s high praise coming from one of the most iconic players ever to grace a field of play in this city, or any other. It’s tough to escape praising him — again.
     
  2. LaVarBallsDad

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    Great. Love the bolded of course...
     
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    Couldn't he have said 4 or 5 young ones that are talented?

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    West likes Russell and Ingram...maybe Clarkson to round the three he had in mind. Like trd reported he was not sold on Randle. Probably does not know much about Nance and Zu. West will get another look on Friday if he is there.
     
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    He could have, but I think if you were going to ask Jerry, he'd be being dishonest to Lakers fans, and I don't think he would do that. Plus, it doesn't need to be 4 or 5. If 2 of our guys we drafted developed into very good to great player(s), we have scored. If the rest are starting material/rotational players, we're in great shape.
     
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    Biggest thing is this: Luke. Luke is going to be a great coach. Period.
     
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    I think he has shown great wisdom and putting together a very capable staff also. Byron was afraid to have qualified staff that could replace him.
     
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    FYI

    We are now 2-3

    Last year it took 10 games before we won our second game (2-8).

    :FistPump:
     
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    I like this team, bottom line, I like them. We are mediocre, but I like watching them anyway, they compete most games, we're not out there getting destroyed by 20 or 30 ever game. I like Luke, I like that we are putting up a surprising amount of points, and I like how the team seems to really get along. Hell even Nick Young is playing great, I have very little to complain about right now, we're right about where I expected this early in. Last year was painful to watch, the main draw was the last we'd ever see of Kobe and that was painful for the most par too, but this year so far I'm not finding games hard to watch at all. I'm realistic about this team, they aren't winning a thing for a while, all I want is entertaining competitive games and I'm getting them.
     
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    Not just that stat too but the manner we were losing and how bad it was...
     
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    Luke is the product of a few legendary basketball minds, his dad (Wooden by extension) Lute Olson, Phil Jackson, Jerry West and Steve Kerr (if you want to count him) who is another extension of Lute, Phil and even Popovich. Plus he rode the pine for years, which seems to be a big part of the formula for good coaches. We're on to something good with this guy.
     
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    Also the fact that last year 5 of the first 6 games were against lotto teams and no one in the first 10 games we played were above mediocre. We sucked.

    I very highly doubt any of teams we've played so far will be lotto teams this year and in fact and 4 out of 5 teams played so far are perennial playoff teams and the other, Utah, looks tough (ask the Spurs). We've been in every single game. Houston beat us 4x last year, yeah they lost Howard but we just beat him too on his new team which is a better team (imo) anyways.

    It's early but the coach change is clearly having big effects.
     
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    Going to be at the game tonight, hopefully its not our first blowout and Ingram can recapture what he did against them in the preseason.
     
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    Shoot, bYRON still hadn't figured out rotations. It was a travesmamockery!
     
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    Wave .... do something ..... so we know where you are. :Headbang:




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    WE BEAT THE WARRIORS I LOVE IT!! I LOVE LA!
     
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    Oh man...what was that?! These damn punks! Love 'em...
     
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    What. A. Win.
     
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    Woooo! If this wasn't an optimistic look for our boys, I don't know what is.

    :JuliusPumped 1:
     
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