Official Wmc Thread: Um Those Too Many W's! Fix The Tank!

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  1. Jb8

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    But it's not to the point where OKC can't make it up in the standings. At the very least, it will be a point where the odds are against them in getting a top 3 pick.
     
    Jb8, Nov 23, 2014
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  2. karacha

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    Yes. As I said earlier -- Swag makes us too good.
     
    karacha, Nov 23, 2014
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    My concern is that we'll be borderline between keeping our pick and losing it and suddenly the team cares and pride gets in my he way so they play hard and win meaningless games....... Like last year.
     
    alam1108, Nov 23, 2014
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    If true, that is absolutely great news. Can you imagine how unhappy Durant will be if he feels ready but the team doesn't let him play?
     
    scnottaken, Nov 23, 2014
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    And we haven't even hit rock bottom yet.

    I hate that I default to blaming the coach when our team looks this bad. But between Byron and Kobe, this thing is a mess. Honestly we should have won tonight, but 37 % FG and 3/24 from 3PT will do that.

    Kobe usurped the offense in the 4th quarter, but can you blame him? Until the Wesley Johnson dunk, no one had scored a FG since the 5 minute mark in the 3rd quarter.

    But why did Kobe take such difficult shots? On literally every possession in the 4th, Kobe would setup or catch it in the mid-post, back to the basket. He would kick out when the double came, and our guys would miss. Then his other option was a turnaround fade, which he missed more than made.

    This is why I blame the coach. Or Kobe. Run an offense for god's sake. And if coach has plans why the hell is Kobe isolating and trying to run the show? One night it's defense then the next it's offense....
     
    Chillbongo, Nov 23, 2014
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    Chillbongo, Nov 23, 2014
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    & we thought Boozer starting was as bad as it could get.. Boozer goes down & Jordan Hill has to play 42 minutes(he didn't play badly but we don't want him playing that much & getting hurt). Ed Davis gets a chance to start & blows it, Wes gets minutes at PF & 41 minutes overall, Sacre gets 18 minutes. Now we have to play Memphis. What a mess.
     
    LakersN4, Nov 24, 2014
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    I know these two plays are the end all be all on why we lost tonight but they really stick out as far as not helping us:

    1) Jeremy Lin 2 missed FT in OT. Yes, Kobe and others missed but those were huge.

    2) Jordan Hill or whoevers responsibility it was to box out when Galo missed that free throw in OT which lead to a Galo 3.

    Such a bummer that loss.
     
    Battle Tested20, Nov 24, 2014
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    You need depth. Boozer should never start again, and this game should show why.
     
    trodgers, Nov 24, 2014
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    That's kinda stupid for OKC. it's still the begining of the season and those 2 coming back can be a possibly 20 wins streak with enough motivation.
    I actually think those 2 injured is a good thing. they got from it a much better Jackson, Morrow, Telfair, Perry Jones.
    if they played the same season as last year they would've got the same results.

    now they have a battle reaching the playoffs and will probably end in a bad spot in the west. but more ability to go all the way with much better players.
     
    ShowTime_IR, Nov 24, 2014
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    I just can't see Westbrook and Durant mailing it in once they get back. OKC could miss the playoffs, but I still see them winning 40+ games once they are healthy.
     
    ElginTheGreat, Nov 24, 2014
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    OKC can't tank with two of the games premier players coming back. Those two are in their athletic primes and raring to go, there's no way they sit still for a tank job.

    Not to mention, OKC doesn't gain anything from Reggie Jackson's continued exposure. Reggie is playing his way out of OKC with a big contract.
     
    therealdeal, Nov 24, 2014
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    I just saw a report that says Xavier Henry may have torn his achilles tendon in practice today. Can we just take injury mode off this season?
     
    The Showtime Mamba, Nov 24, 2014
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    More minutes for Clarkson finally hopefully though you never feel good about injuries.
     
    SFGOLDRUSHER, Nov 24, 2014
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    Please tell me this didn't happen. :banghead:
     
    Juronimo, Nov 24, 2014
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    I completely agree with this.
     
    ElginTheGreat, Nov 24, 2014
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    I swear, with Xavier Henry busting his achilles, I feel like the universe could not be sending us a clearer message about our protected pick. I don't believe in god, but if he exists, he DOES NOT want us winning games.
     
    D-Fish Man, Nov 24, 2014
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  18. trodgers

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    We've had some amazingly bad injury history.
     
    trodgers, Nov 24, 2014
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    I believe we are now eligible for the NBA's injury Hardship Exception since we have four guys out - three for the whole season and one for 6 weeks.

    http://newsok.com/oklahoma-city-thunder-qa-on-how-an-nba-hardship-exception-works/article/5363918

    Oklahoma City Thunder: Q&A on how an NBA hardship exception works
    It can be a complex and confusing process for fans attempting to following along as the Thunder acquires another player. So here’s a quick cheat sheet of answers to some of the more common questions about the exception and the journeyman point guard the Thunder is bringing in.
    by Darnell Mayberry Published: November 5, 2014

    The Thunder is set to add point guard Ishmael Smith to its roster using a rare exception available only when the league determines a team is dealing with a hardship.


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    Houston Rockets' Ish Smith (5) passes the ball over Orlando Magic's Elfrid Payton, right, during the second half of an NBA preseason basketball game in Orlando, Fla., Wednesday, Oct. 22, 2014. Houston won 90-89. (AP Photo/John Raoux)
    It can be a complex and confusing process for fans attempting to following along as the Thunder acquires another player. So here’s a quick cheat sheet of answers to some of the more common questions about the exception and the journeyman point guard the Thunder is bringing in.

    What is a hardship exception?

    It’s a temporary roster spot that must be granted by the league. It allows a team to exceed the 15-man maximum roster when it has at least four players who are sick or injured for longer than two weeks. Each of the four sick or injured players must miss at least three consecutive games during their two-week absence. An independent physician, not the team’s doctor, must decide whether each player is required to miss two weeks. With Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, Mitch McGary and Grant Jerrett all having missed at least three straight games while sidelined for at least the season’s first month with various injuries, the Thunder meets the criteria.

    How long does the exception last?

    Until the first of the four sick or injured players rejoin the lineup. Again, it’s a temporary roster spot. Its purpose is to keep a team that has been decimated by injuries afloat only until the sick or injured players return to the lineup. In the Thunder’s case, the additional roster spot could be good through mid-December.

    Can a second hardship roster exception be added?

    Yes. And it appears the Thunder might soon require an additional replacement. Perry Jones sustained an injury to his right knee Tuesday at Toronto and could miss s chunk of time. The team called the injury a contusion and is in the process of evaluating him to learn more. But if Jones has to miss at least two weeks, and misses the mandated three consecutive contests, the Thunder can and likely will apply for another exception.
     
    lakerjones, Nov 25, 2014
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  20. therealdeal

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    The question really is: since we have THREE players out for the season taking up roster spots, what can we do to pick up a player for the rest of the year?

    We can't cut a guy who is injured so Xavier isn't going anywhere now. Being out for the season doesn't open a roster spot... So now we're sitting at a rotation of:

    Lin/Price/Clarkson
    Bryant/Ellingon
    Johnson/Young
    Boozer/Davis/Kelly
    Hill/Sacre

    Nash, Randle, Henry

    That's not a lot of depth, but a full roster. Who do we cut to make room for some more effective players? Price seems the most likely to be out if we can pick up Mekel still.
     
    therealdeal, Nov 25, 2014
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