Official Wmc Thread: Um Those Too Many W's! Fix The Tank!

Kobe is already showing clear signs of fatigue and we have not hit 10 games yet. We are facing an almost impossible balancing act between limiting his minutes and the reality of how little talent we have.

 

I was looking at that too last night and wondering the same thing. I think some of those teams have more talent than we do and will end up with better records. The only teams I think are flat out worse than us are Philly and maybe the Wolves.

I think we will be better by the end of the year but can't see us getting more than 20 to 25 wins.

 

Where are my college lovers/scout evaluators at? Say if we get the top 5 lottery pick, you think we keep it or Mitch tries to package it up with Houstons 1st/2nd and/or players as well to try and get a proven player?

 

Adding to that a bit, we have to rest Kobe more but I am not sure Byron is going to do that. At this rate, I think Kobe is going to over work himself and might not last the season.

 

Top 2 pick and I think we keep it. Mudiay and Okafor are the real deal. If we ended up with picks 3 to 5, I can see us trading it if the right deal came our way.

 

Those 2 are EXACTLY who I have my eye on that would be HUGEEEE, IMO, for our future. But yeah I wanted to know further from them incase we do get say 3-5, and players maybe to target with Houstons 1st.

 

I like Stanley Johnson (Arizona) or Karl Towns (Kentucky) as other potential top 5 guys. Cliff Alexander is a true post player although a little undersized. I was hoping Houston would be a middle of the pack team and maybe a guy like Marcus Paige (UNC) would slip down letting us get a pg and a big in the first round. But Houston is on a roll and Paige looks set for a big year.

 

I have to see where we are at when Young gets back and he ultimately shakes the rust off...we gave a difficult December and January schedule; however, after that, it does get much easier in terms of the opponents we play. If Kobe is still healthy and our team is at full strength, we might ruin any chance of getting our top 5 pick.

As bad as we are right now, I am inclined to agree with Battle Tested on this one.

 

Tyus Jones (Duke) and the Harrison twins are other guys i will be keeping an eye on as I think they could all have nice years.

With the Houston pick, i think there are some good guards and wings that will be available. Oregon's Joe Young is a big time scorer That i think could help this team right off the bat. Kansas has Kelly Oubre who is athletic and a good defender. Wichita State's ron Baker looks to be a solid all around pg who would be worth a look if the pick is in the 20s.

 

You guys could be right, but I am just not seeing it. I think we are in a Catch 22 with Kobe. Save him until the fourth quarter but risk the team being in a huge hole. Swaggy could help with that by giving us scoring, but I just do not think it will be enough because of our defensive woes.

I am concerned if Kobe will hold up the entire year with the load he is having to carry.

 

So pretty much our scouting department is really going to have to do their homework on Houstons 1st and second to get guys with a good ceiling.

Getting Okafor would be killing two birds with one stone IMO, because then I believe you make Hill expendable and re-sign Davis a to friendly contract. Would take care of our big man situation for super cheap,playing along side Randle. Thus allowing us to concentrate on a great PG/SF combo.

OR

If you land Mudiay, if hes not able to start day 1, I MYSELF, wouldnt be able to argue if he could or not so maybe somebody else could? You either re-sign Lin or another stop gap PG knowing you have your PG of the future whose effing 6'5,which would be HUGEEEE having that leverage against Paul/Westbrook/other PGs( be able to guard SG's as well IF he wants to be a great 2-way player) . Wing is still a must, but then you get to decide if you rather have a solid defensive type C and invest further in a deeper bench, or try for a dominant C to play next to Randle.

 

The load will get lighter once he and Scott realize he's 36 and not 26. After listening to him last night, I think he'll concede to playing less minutes and carrying less of the load.

Defensively, we are bad, but it's not much different than last year where we continuously allowed over 100 points much like this year; also, our roster wasn't much better than this one.

The difference? Offensive philosophy. MDA had us shooting a ton of more 3s which kept us in some games and we even scrapped off 27 wins. Scott has to adjust his offense. We shot 12 3s total against the Spurs. We have to be in between 16-20, IMO. Also, cutting of pin-downs and other actions that result in long 2s.

Defensively, we are a mess. There's other things e could do there, too. Maybe inserting Davis into the starting lineup or not gambling/fouling as much and taking a more conservative approach. Just suggestions. There's ways to improve this team schematically in both sides of the ball.

 

As everyone knows im optimist prime, but its almost like the Lakers are doing certain things to hold the team back just enough to keep the top 5 lottery pick, and not to drive up some players values by putting them in the best place to succeed in order to re-sign some of them for a lot cheaper in order not to inflate their numbers/value. Might sound crazy but just thinking about it outside the box a little.

 

It sucks to come into a season with such a sense of excitement and see it flushed down the toilet less than a month in. Also, I can just see Kobe going down before January if he doesn't get rest.


Alright now that I got that off my chest, I'm going back to the optimism thread lol.

 

Yeah, this thread blows... theres already enough WMC in EVERY thread lol. I feel like its not even needed, if you have a WMC on any particular subject/player/etc, then post it in that thread if its legit.

 

@SFGOLDRUSHER i lean toward Okafor, but I also think Mudiay could help us from day one. You are spot on about his size and his ability to defend a couple of positions. Drafting him and resigning Lin (at the right price of course) would be great IMO.

We will definitely have to scout well with Houston's puck. They look much better than I thought they would. I think they will come back down to earth, but it is still looking like it will fall somewhere in 20s.

 

You think they can beat GS,POR,MEM,LAC in a 7 game series? Heck no against the spurs, I think they have a chance against LAC but to everyone else i feel pretty confident its a no. BTW we/ you should make a "Tired of the WMC,Optimism wore out? 2015 Laker Draft 101" thread haha.

 

so... who's the top 5 prospects in the upcoming draft?

 

I think they will flame out in the postseason again, but I think they are going to have a good record.

Lol. I am definitely ok with the new thread idea.