Official Whine, Moan, Complain Thread 19/20-CLOSED "WE CHAMPS!"

Yeah my same thought after seeing that clip and then reading what johnnyboy was saying Bron was ragging on Kuz with all night. Gawdammit .... everything looked so promising early on and then just turned to s*** after beating GS on Christmas day with the cluster bleep of the trade deadline and now Bron reverting to who we always thought he would be has just killed this team and done some real irreparable harm. Kuz probably expects to be gone and doesn't even give a s*** about that if he was willing to get physical with pushing The Big Turd like that.

 

johnny, the Times today said toward the end some fan yelled out when it was quiet, "Jeanie this is garbage" or "trash" so that she certainly heard it where she was. Did you hear that, and it also reported that again that fans were booing toward the end. Not a good look.

 

Don’t look now, but the Pelicans who we make fun of are now only a game back of us (2 in loss column)

“Guys, I just want to leave and go somewhere I can win.”

 

I agree mainly with @abeer3 on this one, as Shaq was basically holding us hostage on the trade.

Also while I agree in the second round picks from 2008-2012 we’re garbage, they were essentially bottom of the barrel, perhaps we could of bought some picks to get some “gems” but its not like Phil is known for developing draft picks.

Picked Gasol and Critterton who were both parts of the Pau trade.

Also Mitch did manage to get Ariza for Mo Evans which always seems to get swept under the rug.

So while it definitely wasn’t plain sailing for Mitch, he was by no means the GOAT, he wasn’t overall as bad as people make him out to be imo.

 

Does anyone know the stat on total number of games missed by players since vitti retired? It seems the lakers have had a ridiculous amount of injuries the past few years. I wonder how other teams have fared.

 

agree to disagree, i guess. again, i could make a list of morey and ainge low lights that would make you cringe, too. and they've got one title between them. and it was gifted ainge by his buddy in minny.

 

They nailed it.

 

It’s sickening lottery teams can put forth this kind of effort and a supposed “contending” team can’t even run back on defense.

One team is in the lottery because they don’t have the talent

The other is in the lottery because 2-3 guys max on any given night give a s***.

 

how the **** did we get to this point? its so puzzling to me

thanks david stern

 

You know how bad things are when Screaming A Smith starts making sense.



Talk about culture change, we had that last year. You saw how all the kids were working hard to develop their games. The vets were solid, they kept their heads down and kept on trucking even though some things were not ideal.

Now you have Lebron in the mix and a Suicide Squad group of vets. Lebron comes with his own “culture”. He blames others for his missed rotations. He throws a hissy fit when you don’t pass him the ball. You don’t get your guys going to war for you with that. And then you have Rondo doing Rondo things ever since he got benched for Bullock, hard to blame him but you gotta play through that, you are a vet.

You replace Brook Lopez, Andrew Bogut and Corey Brewer with Rajon Rondo, Lance Stephenson and Michael Beasley. Come on now.

 

Chris Brousources says it was LeGM who specifically wanted tough vet playmakers and not necessarily shooters. Magic came with a list of those players willing to take 1 yr deals and LeGM signed off. Let's hope magic learned his lesson.

 

Great point about the vets. If you've got LeBron, you gotta have those hard-nosed professional vets to balance the locker room out. In Miami, you had guys like Battier, Allen, Haslem, etc. who always accepted their role, showed up, and went to work. In Cleveland, you had Love, Jefferson, Frye, and Korver who done the same. Magic and Rob need to keep that in mind come July.

 

i tried to make this point on these forums a few months ago and whomever i was arguing with wasn't buying it. if nobody covers rondo, and he shoots 4-12 from three, it doesn't help us. i hate to say this (because he's the antichrist), but harden't standard 4-12 night is much more damaging because teams are working to ensure that's 4-12, which means guys like pj tucker get all day to shoot and can a higher percentage, plus the lane's open for lobs and such. rondo, stephenson, kcp, you name it's threes come at the expense of possible easy buckets.

anyway, the anti-warriors stuff was always hilarious for several reasons. first: we were nowhere near competing with them, so the idea of gunning for one team likely to finish 6 slots ahead of you in the standings was laughable (even at the time). second: the one team that does have gs's number (houston, who might beat them this year...gag), has two playmakers on the whole damn roster. everyone else is catch and shoot and play and defense and carry harden's bags and shut the hell up. it's like...the opposite of our team, personnel-wise.

it's not worth rehashing, but the FO screwed up royally after signing lebron. several of us knew it at the time and said so. i hope the others won't give us as much s*** about next time.

 

well i'm guessing that was part of the mindset in bringing in guys like rondo and mcgee

 

none for me....done watching, should've kept my promise sooner after the Atl lost

 

Yeah, I'd say that was part of it, but Rondo and McGee both had histories of being headcases. The guys I mentioned never really had any drama, so I guess I should have clarified that we need to sign more level-headed vets this summer.