Official: Unsubstantiated Trade Suggestions, Speculation, And Rumors

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by Barnstable, Sep 15, 2014.

Page 55 of 65
  1. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    12,135
    Likes Received:
    13,854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Thats a bad core and pg wouldn't join it either
     
    Khmrp, May 7, 2017
    #1081
  2. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    12,135
    Likes Received:
    13,854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I would, DD offense is so easily disruptivable, simply cause hes not a good perimiter player, take away his driving lane and force him to be a jump shooter, as an all star franchise type player you vant have stat likes like 2/9 with 5 pts in nearly 40mins like he did in gm 2 against cavs and he has had alot of these gms the last 3yrs or so of playoffs, george destroyed him last yr too...hes a more athletic eddie jones to me
     
    Khmrp, May 7, 2017
    #1082
  3. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,157
    Likes Received:
    18,506
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Offline
    As easy as that sounds, it doesn't happen very often. Over the past four seasons, they have won 48, 49, 56, and 51 regular season games and a total of 17 in the playoffs. And this is with Kyle Lowry as their second best player (a player I think is pretty awful, but we might disagree there). DeRozan is 27 years old, entering his prime. I'm not too concerned about what he did in the past few years, to be honest. His growth has been mammoth over the past three seasons, going from a 20-4.6-3.1 on 41% shooting at 25 to 23.5-4.5-4.0 on 45% and then 27.2-5.2-3.9 on 47% shooting. He's good. I wouldn't hate it, but it's not my first or second choice.
     
    trodgers, May 7, 2017
    #1083
    LTLakerFan and ElginTheGreat like this.
  4. KRL

    KRL - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2016
    Messages:
    1,369
    Likes Received:
    1,190
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Well you also forget the $25mm or so the Lakers will have to spend in FA

    Ideally I would expand the deal and take back Melo if the Knicks are willing to take on Moz and Deng
     
    KRL, May 7, 2017
    #1084
  5. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    12,135
    Likes Received:
    13,854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Cant win in big scheme with a star player thats not even respectable 3pt shooter and a poor defender as well and lowry is a big part of the increase in wins, id argue hes as good/important to tor as Derozen
     
    Khmrp, May 7, 2017
    #1085
  6. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,157
    Likes Received:
    18,506
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Offline
    I'd disagree on the second part. Toronto went 15-7 without him this year. There are hard and fast rules and rules of thumb. Need a three-point shooter or defender is a rule of thumb. It's a pretty good rule, mind you, but that's why you add other players - like Russ and Ingram who could be stars, too. One hits threes, one defends. A triumvirate :)
     
    trodgers, May 7, 2017
    #1086
  7. Barnstable

    Barnstable Supreme Fuzzler of Lakersball.com Staff Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2014
    Messages:
    7,274
    Likes Received:
    18,623
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Offline
    Some of these proposals make me sad.

    I hope our summer is much better than this
     
    Barnstable, May 7, 2017
    #1087
    Weezy, JohnnyComeLately2k6, Cookie and 3 others like this.
  8. KRL

    KRL - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2016
    Messages:
    1,369
    Likes Received:
    1,190
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I'd trade for DeRozan.. JR, JC, and Deng
     
    KRL, May 7, 2017
    #1088
  9. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    12,135
    Likes Received:
    13,854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Huh? Why are you using ingram/dlo as ref when you would be willing to trade them for dd? Where do we get said defender and 3pt shooter with dd in tow? with him moz/deng thats nearly 70mill/yr for 3players...also 15-7 is to small of a sample sz....if you see what tor was before lowry you wouldnt disagree with notion that hes just as valuable to tor as dd
     
    Khmrp, May 7, 2017
    #1089
  10. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,157
    Likes Received:
    18,506
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Offline
    Russ is a solid three point shooter already. Ingram is going to be a plus defender.
     
    trodgers, May 7, 2017
    #1090
  11. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,157
    Likes Received:
    18,506
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Offline
    Wait. I wouldn't trade BI or DAR for George. Definitely not for DeRozan.
     
    trodgers, May 7, 2017
    #1091
    Battle Tested20 likes this.
  12. Bryant

    Bryant - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    May 20, 2015
    Messages:
    1,809
    Likes Received:
    5,463
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    No thanks on DeRozan, his comments on staying in Toronto to build his own legacy made it sound like he was afraid to come to LA and live in the shadow of Kobe's legacy. It could be like how Dwight shrunk when he came here.

    I'd offer that same package you mentioned for Jimmy Butler.
     
    Bryant, May 7, 2017
    #1092
    lakerjones, JohnnyComeLately2k6, Barnstable and 2 others like this.
  13. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,157
    Likes Received:
    18,506
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Offline
    Me, too.
     
    trodgers, May 7, 2017
    #1093
  14. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    12,135
    Likes Received:
    13,854
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Me personally it's to difficult to have a "star" like Derozen even if hes 2nd banana....id prefer lesser stars that dont put up #s like him but is a decent/good 3pt shooter thats solid on D, i.e. Middleton type before the injury....some of the types of gm Derozen has had in the playoffs the last 2 yrs is mind boggling, in a bad way for a "star"
     
    Khmrp, May 7, 2017
    #1094
  15. lakerjones

    lakerjones Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    10,735
    Likes Received:
    31,940
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    La La land
    Offline
    I'm not a DeRozan fan. Jimmy Butler on the other hand . . .
     
    lakerjones, May 8, 2017
    #1095
    jbiggs likes this.
  16. Weezy

    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    18,677
    Likes Received:
    75,755
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Anaheim
    Offline
    I stopped being a DeRozan fan in the slightest when he rolled over and showed his belly to LeBron this series like a lil b****. Saying he'd give $100 to anyone who could stop LeBron, and they'd have won too if they had LeBron on their team. You can give respect to your opponent, but that's pathetic.
     
    Weezy, May 8, 2017
    #1096
    sirronstuff, JohnnyComeLately2k6, revgen and 7 others like this.
  17. KRL

    KRL - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2016
    Messages:
    1,369
    Likes Received:
    1,190
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I would call Phil up and see if he would like to do a BI and JC for Porzingis and Courtney Lee

    Assuming PG is a Laker
     
    KRL, May 18, 2017
    #1097
  18. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    No thank you.
     
    therealdeal, May 18, 2017
    #1098
    Cookie, LTLakerFan, Barnstable and 3 others like this.
  19. alam1108

    alam1108 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    13,585
    Likes Received:
    37,190
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Laker Land
    Offline
    I'd pass.
     
    alam1108, May 18, 2017
    #1099
    Cookie and Barnstable like this.
  20. sirronstuff

    sirronstuff - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    31,723
    Likes Received:
    77,087
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Your time is running out Ham
    Location:
    Laker Purgatory
    Offline
    I'd have to chew on that one. He's a pretty good light skinned dude.
     
    sirronstuff, May 18, 2017
    #1100
Page 55 of 65

Share This Page