Official: Unsubstantiated Trade Suggestions, Speculation, And Rumors

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by Barnstable, Sep 15, 2014.

  1. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    The pick they received is supposed to in the 20's, and I'd be fine with it.
     
  2. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,093
    Likes Received:
    18,477
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Offline
    I think Doc Brown and I have both pitched this trade. Now it sounds like the Blazers don't want to take on salary - but what does "draft consideration" mean? Do they want another pick, or are they willing to give up the pick to improve their position?
     
  3. EddieEddie

    EddieEddie - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2017
    Messages:
    613
    Likes Received:
    990
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    Yeah, just read that news about Ezeli myself. So a Lou for Ezeli trade is certainly a no-go for Portland given it costs them $.

    The way I read that is they are willing to include a pick alongside Ezeli in order to salary dump him. That's why teams under the salary floor who can outright absorb his contract are mentioned. I can certainly see Philly and Brooklyn being interested in such a move.
     
  4. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,093
    Likes Received:
    18,477
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Offline
    [​IMG]

    I GOT YOU, FAM.
     
    alam1108, lakerjones and LTLakerFan like this.
  5. EddieEddie

    EddieEddie - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2017
    Messages:
    613
    Likes Received:
    990
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    Unfortunately Calderon doesn't really help either. Portland doesn't just want to dump the 1 million guaranteed to Ezeli next season but the remainder of his contract this season. Portland has the 2nd highest payroll behind Cleveland at 120 million. With the luxury tax at 113.3 million, removing the 7.4 million contract off the books in terms of luxury tax calculations is significant. One way for the Lakers to stay in the mix is to involve one of the teams with cap space to absorb Ezeli right now. The Sixers, Nets and Nuggets were mentioned but then there is also Utah, Minnesota, Phoenix and Indiana.

    I'm looking at Utah. They are 4th in West but there is a sufficient gap between them GSW, San Antonio and Houston. They are in that next tier with the Clippers, Grizzlies and Thunder. With only a 0.5 game edge over the Clippers for 4th, they could look to get some help at the deadline and be more stout come playoff time. One need they could look at is bench scoring. Their top 5 scorers are all starters - with only two above 14ppg - and no full time reserve is averaging even 9ppg. So Lou could go there and be a nice boost to a Utah team that ranks 3rd lowest in points.

    So I'm thinking 3 way trade:

    Jazz get: Lou Williams. See above as to why.

    Blazers get: 2023 2nd round pick via Lakers (Top 55 protected). In other words, Blazers likely don't get anything in the deal because the value to them is dumping Ezeli for the financial savings. Unless in 2023 the Lakers are a Top 5 team, which in that case I don't think the Lakers care to lose this pick.

    Lakers get: Festus Ezeli, 2017 1st round pick via Portland and 2018 1st round pick via Utah (less favorable between Utah and OKC). Yes, two 1st round picks. Portland seems willing to give up a 1st to unload Ezeli and doesn't make sense for that pick to go to Utah since the Lakers are taking on the contract of an injured Ezeli. Then Utah is getting Lou Williams, so makes sense they should give up something of value themselves. They don't owe any picks yet have 5 owed to them between now and 2022. They can easily afford to part with a mid-late 1st rounder in 2018 for Lou Williams. Hence forth, two 1st round picks to LA! :)
     
  6. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,090
    Likes Received:
    60,066
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    I like it!

    [​IMG]
     
  7. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I don't think Utah will let that happen. It makes sense, sure, but two 1sts for Lou is too much. I could imagine one first and maaaybe you Jedi mind trick them into an extra 2nd. I would love to make this work.
     
    Barnstable and trodgers like this.
  8. EddieEddie

    EddieEddie - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2017
    Messages:
    613
    Likes Received:
    990
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    The Jazz aren't giving up two 1sts for Lou. One is coming from Portland, per the whole salary dump thing. The Jazz are giving up one 2018 1st rounder, in which they have 2 and are giving up the lesser one. That's an incredibly cheap price to pay for Lou Williams, who can be a huge boost to them this season (and next given he is under contract).

    Also it cracks me up that I take the time to write up a long trade idea and I get 1 like whereas a short rebuttal saying "Nah, I don't think it'll work" gets 3 likes. Kind of makes me less inclined to post things like that. This place is like Instagram in how it does a number on your confidence LOL
     
    MonsterMash32, Cookie and LTLakerFan like this.
  9. MonsterMash32

    MonsterMash32 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2017
    Messages:
    693
    Likes Received:
    512
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Richmond, VA
    Offline
    Cue my making spending money on obvious non contenders and giving up draft picks...thing. :)
     
  10. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    36,090
    Likes Received:
    60,066
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    After the Grammys tonight all the musically inclined LakersBall posters will trickle in and "Like" your trade like me. :p
     
    EddieEddie likes this.
  11. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,093
    Likes Received:
    18,477
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Offline
    I think there's a level of cynicism about this season and our resources. It's nothing against you :)
     
  12. sirronstuff

    sirronstuff - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    31,372
    Likes Received:
    76,477
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Your time is running out Ham
    Location:
    Laker Purgatory
    Offline
    TLDR

    :Laugh:
     
    alam1108 likes this.
  13. MonsterMash32

    MonsterMash32 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2017
    Messages:
    693
    Likes Received:
    512
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Richmond, VA
    Offline
    That's actually pretty terse for a typical EE post :p

    But it's usually worth the read.
     
    Barnstable and trodgers like this.
  14. sirronstuff

    sirronstuff - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    31,372
    Likes Received:
    76,477
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Your time is running out Ham
    Location:
    Laker Purgatory
    Offline
    I'm just giving him a hard time. I don't think this thread gets a lot of traffic, but maybe if this becomes a real possibility it will. I personally can't seem to find the energy to invest in "what if" scenarios much if at all.

    Contending sure changes everything doesn't it....
     
  15. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    11,590
    Likes Received:
    23,560
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Brow-beater
    Location:
    Las Islas Filipinas
    Offline
    I question your fanhood! glove slap
     
    ZenMaster, LTLakerFan and Barnstable like this.
  16. sirronstuff

    sirronstuff - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    31,372
    Likes Received:
    76,477
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Your time is running out Ham
    Location:
    Laker Purgatory
    Offline
    If the maker of Laker gifs can be questioned, no fan is safe!

    :Fishwink:

    [​IMG]
     
  17. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    11,590
    Likes Received:
    23,560
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Brow-beater
    Location:
    Las Islas Filipinas
    Offline
  18. MonsterMash32

    MonsterMash32 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2017
    Messages:
    693
    Likes Received:
    512
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Richmond, VA
    Offline
    NO! There will be no laughing or merriment of any sort until one of our team's breaks .500. It is decided.
     
  19. EddieEddie

    EddieEddie - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2017
    Messages:
    613
    Likes Received:
    990
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    I'm just naturally verbose. It's why my username itself is repetitive ;)

    I have abundant energy when it comes to "what if" scenarios because often it is more exciting than the "what is" scenario.
     
  20. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    12,052
    Likes Received:
    13,802
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Lou/chi 2nd for Ubre

    Wash strengthen bench for playoffs, we take flyer on a young, rangey, athletic wing (looks likes a potential ariza/bazemore type)


    Then
    Young for Morrow/okc future 1st

    Okc needs wing shooting and here they get one. We get next available okc 1st
     

Share This Page