Official: Unsubstantiated Trade Suggestions, Speculation, And Rumors

I'd gladly do either trade. Doing both would be AMAZING. Turn Lou/Deng into two young players, 3 picks, a load of cap relief and even injured, Rudy Gay is the best player of the bunch and will be healthy next season.

 

Deal 1 is feasible, deal 2 is why? for the Kings. They have to give up picks and a young player to get Deng?

Take out Ben and the seconds and I think it's more reasonable if the Kings feel like they need to press to get to the playoffs to keep Boogie happy.

 

In my post, I was pretty much just going off the Lakers' angle. I agree with you on Sacramento not likely including Ben and two 2nd rounders. Granted I don't think they value Ben that much. He's an impending free agent and playing quite poorly (5.8ppg 1.2rpg 0.8apg 40.6fg%). So while he is a young player, his value is presumably quite low to them. If the Kings were doing such a trade to make the playoffs, a more feasible deal might be Deng + Young for Gay, McLemore + Casspi. The latter two are essentially just salary filler. The Kings upgrade their SG/SF spots considerably and with Boogie, Collison, Lawson, Afflalo, Barnes, Tolliver and Koufos, they could make a more meaningful run at the 8th spot and the right to get demolished by the Warriors in the 1st round.

 

I like both trades but they seem to be starting points for deals rather than the final results. Kings giving up two picks for an aging Deng? i think they'd ask for Nick if they need a wing to help make the playoffs.

Interesting ideas here.

 

I like the deal too just to boot Deng but are we even sure Gay would be available next yr? Didn't it take kobe almost a season and half to recover from his achilles?

 

Nope. We won't be sure of that. What we'd be sure of is unloading the 36.81 million owed to Deng in 2018-2019 and 2019-2020. If Gay gets on the court, I'll consider that an added bonus. Plus Gay's expiring contract would be a trade asset this summer in terms of assisting in matching salaries. It'd be easier to trade for a sizeable contract like Butler or George if you had that contract at your disposal - rather than scrapping together multiple smaller contracts.

 

I do the trade for Gah in a second, but I doubt he sees the court next year. Maybe at the end of the year. I hope we're not interested if he opts out. We need to learn from history. Even the great ones don't come back the same, but especially later in their career.

 

Last I heard it was a "complex choice" whether or not he will opt out. According to Adrian Woj anyways right after the injury. Haven't really heard anything since. If he does opt out, then the deal is even better as the cap relief is an even better scenario.

I don't believe a torn achilles tendon isn't really a "so what" injury. Laker fans should know this as well as anyone. With Gay turning 31 in August, I think teams will certainly be weary. However, because of the new CBA and the immense upside of a healthy Gay, I do agree that he should be able to get a deal worth more than his opt-in amount for next season.

 

Lou to Wiz isn't such a bad idea, they're playing alot better lately and we have history of dealing with them although I wonder if the Clarkson deal makes them weary now lol but hey we did help them get rid of Kwamaayyyyy!!! and we gave Butler who turned pretty good for them for a while.

 

You think Gay will opt out of 1 year 14 million with a willingness to sign for 3 years 30 million? Yeah, it's more than twice the amount but over the course of 3 years. Free agents care about annual salary just as much as they do total salary. I think if he opts out, it's because he is gunning for a lot more than that. Otherwise, he'd just be better off opting in, taking the 1 year 14 million, playing some of next season, going into the 2018 offseason healthy and then cashing in for a lot more than the 2 years 16 million that he would have gotten paid if he settled for that figure.

 

Replace Jason Smith with Oubre. Smith would be redundant here with Randle/Nance.

I'm not sure why a young team like Sac would want Deng though.

 

How about Deng+(2nd from another trade) for Ibaka+Meeks (expirings)?

I don't think Orlando fans are happy that Ibaka is taking minutes away from Gordon at the 4.

They're losing Jeff Green and Ibaka next year anyways.

 

Its Sac....why ask? They traded an unprotected 1st, gave up a former #7 pick after 1yr, so they could free up cash to sign rondo/koufus a yr ago. Divac is as bad as Billy King

 

I'm saying players, especially those of Gay's caliber, aren't just focused on total guaranteed money. Annual salary is similarly important, if not more so because that's your actual value. I don't think Gay opts out of 1 year 14 million with any level of willingness to sign a 3 year 30 million dollar deal. You are right, he is an elite SF and that's why if he isn't certain he can't get much bigger offers than that - heck, even 3 years 48 million might be insulting in a day and age where Luol Deng is getting 4 years 72 million - it'd be a more prudent decision on his end to opt in, play some games next season and cash in next summer.

In the end, all I'm saying is I personally am not assuming he is going to opt-out this summer. Really depends on how comfortable he, and his agent, feels about the type of contract they can get while rehabbing from a fairly serious injury.

 

I decided to read some articles and get a little more insight on Gay's status for next season. Read a piece on CBS that said his surgery was successful and doctors say he will be ready for the 2017-2018 season. Read another piece saying he'd be able to participate in training camp as well. I was under the impression he was due to miss a good portion of the season. If that's the case about his timetable, then yeah he definitely should opt out.