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    They are picking on Mullen - and he's getting destroyed.
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    Kennedy, "I guess the Raiders are gonna take a timeout here."
    Musbuger, "Why?"
     
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    35-0 before the half
     
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    I have a lot to say but I'll just say that I think the Carr era is over now. The whole team played bad but I put so much on offensive execution. I didn't think we would beat KC in KC especially having blown the games we have but that blowout was embarrassing as fk.
     
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    Two massive problems - the O-line can't pass protect. The coaching staff refuses to adjust to their opponent.
     
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    Alex Leatherwood
    The Good: He has started 13 games, has played 824 snaps.
    The Bad: He has committed 13 penalties (2nd most among OL), allowed 7 sacks (2nd most among OL), and has a 41.0 PFF grade.
    The Ugly: He has allowed the highest pressure rate among any OL in the NFL (except for Brandon Parker, with whom he is tied).
    Grade: There were: 47 offensive linement drafted. 12 of them are already starters. So, let's jus say Leatherwood is the worst of those starters - he's in the top 1/4 of offensive linemen chosen, but he came off the board 4th among them. That's way too early. And he has also changed positions. I give this a D.

    Trevon Moehrig
    The Good: he has started every game, has allowed only 7 of 13 completions, and has a 71.4 rating on PFF.
    The Bad: he has allowed a 94.7 passer rating when targeted. That's not exactly awful.
    The Ugly: dropped an INT that would have sealed a game.
    Grade: Moehrig was the second safety off the board. Jevon Holland might be a better player, but Moehrig has been good. Among the 10 safeties drafted, those are the two best. Grade: A.

    Malcolm Koonce
    The Good: 2 sacks on just 22 snaps? That's good.
    The Bad: It took Koonce mor than ten games to get onto the field.
    The Ugly: Haven't seen anything that would qualify.
    Grade: There were 19 DEs drafted. Five of them haven't seen the field. None of them are starters. Ten of them have played double digit games. So, let's say Koonce is just below the middle of the pack so far. He was the third off the board. He's also one of the oldest DEs drafted. But he shows a great deal of promise as a rusher. Grade: C-

    Divine Deablo
    The Good: Drew his first start, has played 90 snaps in his last two games, and he hasn't missed a tackle in 25 tries.
    The Bad: His 59.0 PFF grade shows something is amiss.
    The Ugly: He has allowed a 118.7 passer rating when targeted.
    Grade: Deablo is an interesting case. He was drafted 80th as a DB. There were 32 DBs drafted. Only one (Surtain) is officially a starter for their rookie season. No one has played more games than he has, and his tackles are about 12th best. He was 13th off the board. That's not a bad pick. C.

    Tyree Gillespie
    The Good: Had appeared in every game up to a week 9 injury.
    The Bad: Played just seven snaps on D.
    The Ugly: Has been on IR for weeks now.
    Grade: Although Gillespie came off the board 100 picks after Moehrig, he was the third safety chosen. That's a reach. Four safeties have far more tackles, and they could have gotten that production a full round later. C-.

    Nate Hobbs
    The Good: A fifth rounder who has started 8 games (officially; he has really started all of them) as a rookie? That's good. His 85.5 passer rating when targetd is beyond good.
    The Bad: 10% missed tackles - 7 misses on 70 attempts.
    The Ugly: There really isn't any such thing for the young man. A draft steal, it appears.
    Grade: If Hobbs is a CB, then he's the 8th of 16th chosen. No one has more games, only two others are starters, and no one has more tackles. That's a value of about a round and a half higher. A.

    Jimmy Morrissey
    The Good: Thrust into a starting role, he has not missed an offensive snap in the last three weeks.
    The Bad: It took him 9 weeks to get onto the field.
    The Ugly: He's doing it for Houston.
    Grade: Incomplete - not a Raider.
     
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    2020 NFL Draft
    1.12 Ruggs
    The Good: Among 34 WRs drafted, Ruggs has the 11th most yards, 13th most TDs, and 11th highest AV.
    The Bad: Ruggs was drafted first among WRs and ahead of Pro Bowler Justin Jefferson.
    The Ugly: Ruggs's career is probably finished.
    Grade: F

    1.19 Arnette
    The Good: Among 26 CBs drafted, Arnette had more tackles than 9. That's about it.
    The Bad: Arnette played only 13 games, and five players drafted after him became starting CBs.
    The Ugly: His career with the Raiders is finished.
    Grade: F

    3.80 Bowden
    The Good: Bowden flashed a bit with 211 yards receiving, 32 yards rushing in 2020. He also completed a pass for 32 yards (9th most passing yards in draft class).
    The Bad: That's it for Bowden. He hasn't played this season.
    The Ugly: He was released by the Raiders.
    Grade: D-

    3.81 Edwards
    The Good: Edwards went off the board 15th among WRs, and he has the 15th most receiving yards in the draft class. He has started 10 games this season and is on pace for nearly 700 yards, so he's trending up.
    The Bad: Edwards is inconsistent. He has appeared in 25 games, but he has started only 13 in two seasons.
    The Ugly: His 38 catches in 25 games are anemic, and he has just 6-66 in his last four games despite no Ruggs.
    Grade: C

    3.100 Muse
    The Good: He's playing some special teams in Seattle.
    The Bad: Listed as a S in the draft class, Muse was 9th off the board among 23 Safeties. But his 2 games appeared in are worst in the draft class - by nearly double digits (10 is the second lowest).
    The Ugly: He's gone from the Raiders and has appeared on zero defensive snaps in two seasons.
    Grade: F

    4.109 Simpson
    The Good: Simpson was the 4th of 15 Guards selected. But he is one of just seven to become starters. He has also appeared on 97% of the Raiders' offensive snaps this season.
    The Bad: He's top 15 in both penalties (tied for 9th) and sacks allowed (tied for 15th) among Gs.
    The Ugly: Not a lot of ugly from Simpson.
    Grade: C+

    4.139 Robertson
    The Good: Robertson was drafted 16th among CBs, 12 CBs later than Arnette. Yet he has more games than Arnette and 8 other CBs (he's 17th of 26).
    The Bad: Robertson has allowed a 149.3 passer rating last season and a 135.4 this season, including 4 TDs on 24 targets in his career
    The Ugly: his first rep as a Raider, he was lost and burned for a TD.
    Grade: D
     
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    Someone told me that the Raiders released that they may be benching DC for Mariotta. Im excited if that is true. I honestly think our offense should be putting up 30 a game.
     
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    Quick look at some advanced stats on Carr (and considering putting in Mariota):

    Carr's 2.5 seconds of pocket time (snap to throw or snap to pressure): that's average in the lague. Only 8 QBs have more time, but 15 have the same amount of time.
    Carr has been blitzed 132 times, sixth most in the league. And 6th most per game.
    He has been hurried 54 times, 7th most in the league. But 11th most per game.
    He has been knocked down 39 times, 12th most. But 14th most per game.
    He has been sacked 31 times, sixth most. But only 20th most per game.

    So, here's a narrative on Carr:
    He sees an average amount of pressure, takes an average number of sacks, has an average amount of time to make a decision with the ball. And his QBR is average.

    Here's a narrative on Mariota:
    Since coming to LV, he has thrown 28 passes, hasn't taken a sack, has 1 TD and 1 INT, a passer rating of 83 but a QBR of 98. He has, however, rushed for 133 yards and 2 TDs on 14 carries. His pressure numbers were all middle of the pack.

    Thoughts
    I don't think Mariota is a better QB than Carr, but he might be a better fit for a team that cannot generate a rushing game to take pressure off a limping a passing game. LV has played several games now without Ruggs (3.4 receptions per game) and Waller (5.3 receptions per game). That's 1/3 of their completions per game, gone.

    Lost Players Hurt
    For what it's worth, here are the teams most affected in terms of lost players, last week:
    1. Ravens 8-5 L
    2. Packers 10-3 W
    3. 49ers 7-6 L
    4. Raiders 6-7 L
    5. Saints 6-7 W

    The Raiders are not a very deep team.
     
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    Great breakdown on the two QB's Trodgers.

    Here's my take. I love Carr as a QB. I really believe he has all the tools to be (have been) a Hall of Fame level QB. So I do not think overall talent wise Mariota is better than him. Carr has exactly one problem in my opinion and that is he simply doesn't have a true "winners" mentality. He fails more often than not in the meat and potatoes parts of the game (2nd and 3rd qtrs, 3rd downs and inside the redzone too). If he was a fighter he would be great for the one punch knockout providing he gets that "one punch" (4th qtr comebacks). Since he hurt himself right before our last playoff game I have called him Shane Falco (Move: The Replacements) because he just can't get it done when it matters. No one is scared of us in 2 min offense. No one is scared of us in the redzone. No fan is confident we will convert a 3 and anything longer than a yard. No one who watches the game is going to say "oh damn, here comes Carr and the offense! unless we are front running. Even then, we usually go on long dry spells.

    Now, Mariota isn't better than Carr overall but the guy, to me, is a winner. He knows how to extend a play. When he runs he runs for the first down. When he passes he is at the very least trying to move the chains and not checking down 3-5 yards short giving us no chance at all. His awareness in the redzone is significantly better and his clock management too. My buddy was a Titans fan when Mariota was there and we played them. I told him that I loved this kids game, attitude and drive. He isn't a HOF level QB but damn the kid has heart.

    After all these years with DC I don't think he will ever get past the more bark than bite stage. I honestly don't believe we would have had the slide that we seem to always have with Marcus running with these guys. This is all feeling using my eyes. I judge the game by that. Stats can lie. Game reports can be misleading but watching the game doesn't (for me).

    The offense doesn't believe in Carr. The defense is getting worn out every game from being on the field all game long. I think we need to change the QB to have a chance (at all) this year.
     
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    Well looks like Carr is starting. Lets see which dude shows up.

    Defense gave up a first down on the first drive but blew up two run plays to force the punt. Hunter with the great return. We got some good field position for the offense
     
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    That was a great first series by the D. Good return, too.
     
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    That was a good example of your point about Carr - he's too happy to take a weak play.
     
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    I really want 150 from Jacobs. But that's not the way to start off.

    Simpson with a big penalty.
     
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    Clutch catch by Jackson.
     
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    We hurt ourself with the hold force a 1st and 20 but a few nice plays we pick up the 3rd and short. Not bad getting out of that hole
     
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    Jacobs does not trust his line. The hole is there. Hit it.
     
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    Nice call to get Jacobs out in the flat for the 1st
     

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