Official Las Vegas Raiders Thread

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  1. gcclaker

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    Agreed. Incognito, Waller, Mullen, Arnette, Morrow...among the few who could use another week. Add Jacobs to that as well.
     
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    They opened the playbook and hit the quick hitters which has been amazing to see. They said they took out all the complicated schemes Gruden had too. Love seeing Carr move around the pocket and not simply 1st down run, 2nd down run, 3rd and long throw, punt cause we didn't get the damn first down.

    Im also loving how we are not crumbling when one person goes down. We lose Waller before the game and Jacobs during the game but still kill it at both their positions. That is a def change!
     
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  3. trodgers

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    With the Eagles refusing to give up deep passes, the Raiders just destroyed them. Best game from the offense?
     
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    We have depth now... Moreau, Drake, Richard etc.
     
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  5. trodgers

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    Gonna take this time to look at a few positions. Wanted to get back to the trenches again to start.

    OFFENSE
    Leatherwood 455 snaps, 36.5 PFF, 10 penalties, 5 sacks allowed (+5.4)
    Miller 480, 77.7, 3, 0 (+5.6)
    Simpson 479, 51.7, 5, 1 (+4.9)
    James 480, 46.9, 5, 0 (+8.1)
    Eluemunor 266, 57.9, 0, 0
    Parker 223, 36.3, 4, 0 (-4.1)
    Good 17, 50.6, 0, 0
    Simmons 10, 45.5, 0, 1 (+1.0)
    Martin 5, 54.4, 0, 0
    Winning: Kolton Miller
    Holding His Own: Simpson
    Struggling: Leatherwood and Parker
    Silver Lining: The four guys with the most snaps have all improved their play over the last two weeks.
    -One sack in the last two games - and that was on a play were Carr actually could have run past the line, but he ran sideways and made it back to the LOS.

    DEFENSE
    Crosby 390 snaps, 91.4 PFF, 11.5 Relentless Rating
    Ngakoue 344, 69.6, 8.4
    Hankins 262, 48.7, 1.9
    Jefferson 279, 58.7, 6.5
    Thomas 217, 53.2, 9.4
    Nassib 152, 65.8, 4.3
    Philon 137, 55.2, 5.1
    Ferrell 95, 52.6, 3.2
    Square 75, 59.7, 8.7
    Vickers 19, 35.1, n/a
    Winning: Crosby, Ngakoue, Nassib
    Holding His Own: Just about everyone
    Struggling: Hankins, Vickers
    Silver Lining: Depth in the DL rotation
    -Lots of solid contributors here
     
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  6. puffyusaf#2

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    I dont know if its our best game but I am sure its the first time we opened the inside 10 yards quick hit passes and check downs. Carr is looking composed and his faith in the receivers is being rewarded cause the days of watching receivers drop everything seems over. We have had some great receivers but they dropped so many damn passes. Back to Carr, he moves out and around the pocket to make plays but not just "one" play like he has in the past. So for me it was our most complete and open game. Super happy to see them bring in some of the Gannon type offense too.
     
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    With the growing play of Ruggs, Edwards, Renfrow's consistency and Waller's dominance...it appears the signings of Snead and Brown were such a waste. Snead asked and was granted his release.

    Giants are next then the tough part of our schedule starts. Chiefs twice, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Dallas and the Chargers. The Washington Football Team, Indy and even Denver won't be easy.
     
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    I don't mind Snead on roster, and I don't mind him off roster. I wish him the best wherever he goes.
     
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    Let's look at pass catchers and defenders...

    OFFENSE
    Renfrow 51 Targets, 77.4 PFF Grade, 109.8 Passer Rating When Targeted (38-399-2)
    Ruggs 36 Targets, 73.4, 128.2 (24-469-2)
    Edwards 31 Targets, 70.5, 107.7 (18-346-1)
    Zay Jones 7 Targets, 76.7, 118.7 (6-115-1)
    Snead 5 Targets, 55.9, 39.2 (3-32-INT)
    --Who had Ruggs and Zay Jones leading the team in passer rating when targeted? LOL


    DEFENSE
    Abram 64.1 PFF, 31 targets, 158 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT, 87.8 Passer Rating When Targeted
    Hobbs 78.6 PFF, 31 targets, 164 yards, 88.7 PRWT
    Hayward 82.1 PFF, 23 targets, 109 yards, 61.7 PRWT
    Mullen 69.4 PFF, 21 targets, 139 yards, 1 INT, 57.4 PRWT
    Facyson 65.2 PFF, 19 targets, 88 yards, 1 INT, 34.5 PRWT
    Robertson 36.3 PFF, 17 targets, 145 yards, 3 TDs, 140.9 PRWT
    Leavitt 54.6 PFF, 15 targets, 119 yards, 1 TD, 112.9 PRWT
    Moehrig 67.8 PFF, 13 targets, 86 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT, 82.1 PRWT
    Teamer 70.7 PFF, 7 targets, 41 yards, 86.0 PRWT
    Arnette 32.9 PFF, 7 targets, 87 yards, 101.5 PRWT
    Gillespie 90.1 PFF, 0 targets
    -Good: Abram - much improved; Hobbs, Hayward, Facyson, and Teamer - great additions. Moehrig has stepped up his game.
    -Struggling: Robertson and Arnette still look overmatched
     
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    RBs
    69.7 PFF: Drake 194 snaps, 65 plays, 347 yards, 3 TD. 5 broken tackles. Added Yards: 215. PRWT: 115.0

    75.6 PFF: Jacobs 187 snaps, 76 plays, 314 yards, 5 TD. 6 broken tackles. Added Yards: 199. PRWT: 95.3.

    67.0 PFF: Ingold 120 snaps, 10 plays, 53 yards, 1 TD. 1 broken tackles. 20 Yards Added. PRWT: 131.2.

    69.3 PFF: Barber 67 snaps, 42 plays, 174 yards, 1 TD. 3 broken tackles. Added Yards (Yards after Contact + Yards after Catch): 93. PRWT: 77.9.

    62.4 PFF: Richard 34 snaps, 11 plays, 32 yards, 0 TD. 0 broken tackles. Added Yards: 27. PRWT: 43.7.

    Drake and Jacobs have been a solid duo, and Barber filled in well when Jacobs was out. Jacobs is the best runner, Drake's the best receiver (though Ingold continues to do well there). Richard is knocking the rust off.
     
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    Tonight's dinner...

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    Im so happy San Diego lost so that puts us in first place period.
     
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    Tragic. Sad for the family of the person who died.

    From a football perspective his season is over. The league is going to come down hard on him especially after Mark was so vocal against the leagues non releasing of the WFT reports. He may get to play this weekend but I seriously doubt the league allows it.
     
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    He should not play another snap in the NFL. He should be going to jail.
     
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    I cant say I could personally say that without the information or facts. You can get a DUI for having anything in your system even a single beer. He could of done a lot of things and that could land him in jail. It could also turn out he was simply reckless and the result was tragic but the action does not warrant jail time. I will say the charge of "resulting in death" makes me feel he wasn't over the legal limit (total speculation on my part). I am curious what the LVPD and DA come up with in the next few days. I reserve full judgement till then personally.

    My point up there was that the league will suspend him regardless. I'm actually curious what coach B will do if the league doesn't step in before Sunday.
     
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    The report says he showed signs of impairment. That’s more than a beer. Even with a good lawyer he is in trouble.
     
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    I think the Raiders will choose to not play him, just like how the Dodgers didn't play Bauer after the sexual assault story.
     
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    I understand that too but, devils advocate, "signs of impairment" after an accident is hard to tell because of shock, injury etc. I'm not saying he wasn't sh**faced or culpable just that it isn't cut and dry by the way it was initially stated. He is in a sh**load of trouble and very well could have ruined his career.
     

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