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    1.6 Ashton Jeanty
    There are really only two ways Jeanty isn't electric as a rookie. He could have totaled too much usage recently, so he'd need a little bit of a breather before he bounces back. Or, he'll pick up a usage injury. Other than that, I think he's a top 10 RB from day one, and many seem to think he'll be top 5 from day 1.
    Rookie Projection: 75 (good starter)
    Ceiling: 90+ (All-Pro)
    Floor: 70 (good starter)

    2.58 Jack Bech WR
    Big, strong WR/TE hybrid. He won't block like a TE, but he'll be too big and strong for many DBs to handle if they don't jam him off the line. He can play from the slot or outside. With Jakobi and Brock plus Jeanty, Geno Smith has some weapons.
    Rookie Projection: 60 (adequate)(stat projection: 44 receptions, 590 yards, 2 TDs)
    Ceiling: 70 (good starter)
    Floor: 45 (rotational player)

    3.68 Darien Porter, CB
    Fascinating prospect. Was a WR, converted to DB, and became a starting CB. Absolutely electric athletic profile. Still adjusting to coverage, especially man coverage, and has to work on his tackling. Two things worth noting. First, he blocked a punt and a field goal. Second, his passer rating when targeted decreased from 139.6 in 2022 to 75.7 to 4.7 last season. He allowed 5 receptions on 17 targets in 2024. He did great work quickly becoming more sophisticated at the position.
    Rookie Projection: 50 (rotational player)(occasional start, 2 INTs)
    Ceiling: 70 (good starter)
    Floor: 42 (special teamer/rotational)

    3.98 Caleb Rogers, OL
    Experienced player. Played all spots along the OL except for Center. Most reps recently at RT, but he's probably an OG in the NFL. High floor, low ceiling player.
    Rookie Projection: 45 (rotational player)(stat projection: 9 games, 1 start)
    Ceiling: 60 (adequate starter)
    Floor: 30 (roster body)

    3.99 Charles Grant, OL
    What a fascinating player Grant is. He's fast, incredibly so for his size, pulls well, and was an all-state wrestler. Having played at William & Mary, he's going to need some time to develop. In this regard, he's probably the opposite of Rogers - needs more time, higher ceiling.
    Rookie Projection: 40 (rotational tackle)(6 games, 2 starts)
    Ceiling: 70 (starting LT)
    Floor: 25 (practice squad/roster body)

    Thoughts on the picks so far.
    Jeanty - position of need, best RB in the draft, and arguably the best player available. I know RBs are undervalued in the NFL, but it's hard to be bothered by this. A-.
    Bech - position of need, an NFL ready player, and someone who could be a real matchup problem. Probably not the WR many were looking for in Vegas, but I think he's a good pick. B+
    Porter - position of need, one of the highest upsides of any CBs in the draft, but he's going to need some time to feel comfortable in multiple looks on D. B-
    Rogers - position of weakness, an NFL ready OL, and someone who could slot in for Parham right away probably. In isolation, this is a C- or D+. With Grant, it's a solid strategy.
    Grant - position of weakness, a fascinating prospect, and someone who can start to pave the way for a possible parting of ways with Kolton Miller. In isolation, a C. With Rogers, they're a B backage.
     
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    Good lord. Dont'e Thornton is 6'5, ran a 4.3 40, and average 25 yards per grab as a senior. He's explosive but has a raw route tree.
    Rookie Projection: 38 (special teamer/rotational player)
    Ceiling: 58 (good deep threat)
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    Tonka Hemingway DT
    Tweener DL who played a lot in college. He defended 11 passes in his career, including 7 in 2023. Picked up 9.5 sacks over his last three seasons, too. He also ran for a TD. He's not young, so his upside is limited. More a pass rusher than a run stuffer.
    Rookie Projection: 35 (roster body) (4 games played projection)
    Ceiling: 50 (rotational player/pass rusher)
    Floor: 20 (Practice Squad)
     
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    JJ Pegues DT
    Lots of experience. Entered Auburn as a TE, transferred to Ole Miss and became an excellent DT. Pretty wild career stats, with 8 receptions and a TD plus 31 carries and 7 TDs.
    Rookie Projection: 40 (Rotation Player)(11 games projected)
    Ceiling: Adequate Starter (60)
    Floor: 30 (roster body)
     
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    I'll be back to fill these in...

    Tommy Mellott
    QB who is transitioning to WR?
    Rookie Projection: (Special Teamer)
    Ceiling: (Backup)
    Floor: 20 (Practice Squad)

    Cam Miller
    Rookie Projection: (Practice Squad/Backup)
    Ceiling: (Backup)
    Floor: 20 (Practice Squad)


    Cody Lindenberg
    ILB, injuries?
    Rookie Projection: (Special Teamer)
    Ceiling: (Rotation)
    Floor: 20 (Special Teamer)
     

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