Official 2016 Free Agency Thread

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  1. ElginTheGreat

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    I'm still fine with DeRozan. We need talent period. I think he remains one of the more realistic targets out there. A lot of the names being tossed around out there are restricted or require willing trade partners. The others don't really sound like guys who are ready to leave their current teams.
     
  2. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers MVP -

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    I'll wait for the draft lottery to be over before dreaming.
     
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    Screw DD. He is a slightly taller, much more expensive version of JC without the shot.

    And if JC ever gets D - he is better too.

    To me - it's DD or JC + very very serviceable vet. like Deng.
     
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    Don't want DD for the max but have also flip-flopped and realistically, I might do it again.

    One problem regardless of his miserable Play-off run is still most important in my view. If we play Randle (which we should) and get any center on the market outside of Horford, I don't see how we can afford a wing that cannot really shoot from outside. Obviously, the make-up of our team could/will change in many ways over the summer, but as of now, i don't see how that works.

    I would be very curious to know what Walton thinks about going after him...
     
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    Agreed. Ultimately it's very simple re: Derozan.

    You hired a coach from GS...

    who runs the playbook from GS...

    to try to do what everyone else in the league is...

    which is to replicate GS...

    You CANNOT do that without wings that can shoot and shoot well from distance.

    EDIT: An even better way to look at it. Close your eyes and replay every GS set that you can think of. Now replace Klay with Demar. How effective is it? How good does it look now?

    Then remember that we don't have the greatest shooter who ever lived on our team either...
     
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  6. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers MVP -

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    That's a grim thought YTC.
     
  7. Kou

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    There might be better fits, but beggars can't be choosers and if we strike out on a lot of FA's I wouldn't say no.

    Edit - But I do agree with your post, it wouldn't be pretty.
     
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    Beggars (in this case) can choose how long they want to be begging and at what level, don't you think?
    I mean, spending too much on DD could make us beggars at a higher level for 5 years, while not doing that could keep us begging hard for a shorter while, possibly followed by champagne and cigars..

    :Trophy2:
     
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    Eh, I don't see us as beggars though.

    More like that young couple that wants a house, but only gets approved for 150K.

    We could buy whatever that 150K gets us and call us homeowners. Or...

    Rent an apartment few another year or two, save money and go back and get approved for more money and therefore get a better quality house later.
     
  10. KareemtheGreat33

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    I'm seeing too much of Nick Young on DD. I don't know why.
     
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    There's a fan fiction in there somewhere...
     
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    BUT YOU ARE SHOPPING IN DOWNTOWN LA!!! $150k gets you a hallway.

    Jus' sayin :)
     
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    Magbe beggars was a step too far, I'm just saying that if we did max DDR it's not like we signed Smush Parker for 5 years max.

    If we rent and wait the cap is going up massively the following season and there will be even more competition for top tier players.

    But like I said in an ideal world I agree that there are better fits for our new system.
     
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    Gives Mitch a chance to Jedi mind trick him.
     
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    I'm honestly thinking the hiring of Walton means we'll avoid DD. Add to that fact, last week Steve Mason said DD is drooling to come to LA. Ireland (aka Lakers' mouthpiece) quickly jumped in and said I'm not hearing that at all. I think that was Ireland's way of slowly letting the fanbase know DD is not going to be a Laker next year. I'll be honest. It's really starting to feel like there are no trades available (Cousins and Butler seem to be off the market, and PG13 was total pipe), and I think we will punt this offseason. If we keep the pick, it goes Simmons---->Ingram---->Trade for a nice player (but not a superstar). Then try to snag Horford or Bazemore or someone of that ilk. We get a dump candidate from Doc's list and hope Durant signs a 1 + 1. Then we try to snag both Westbrook and Durant the following season. So long as we have Walton instituting a new system and developing our youngsters, I'm actually OK with that.
     
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    i don't think you can really emulate gs, so i'm not sure that's a starter. walton said he wanted to bring elements of that, but really, without steph curry, that system isn't really revolutionary. in other words, it's not a blueprint for success, because it can't actually be replicated. they have two of the best shooters we've seen...maybe ever. that's HUGE. we will NOT have that at any point.

    i'll trust luke and the FO to come up with a general plan about what we want to do and find guys to fit that plan. if derozan is one of them, it can work. just need a shooter at sf and a center that demands attention on the roll.

    and after watching derozan the last couple games, i'm pretty convinced his problems are due to an injury on his dominant hand. thus, i'm throwing out the playoffs woes in my evaluation of his ability.
     
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    No shift for me. He's still showing as a one good game per series player in the playoffs which doesn't cut it for me. I'm not concerned as much about how much he costs as he's obviously a sought after young talent. My biggest fear is that we'd go after him just as a name when his game simply doesn't fit in to what I see us trying to do. He can't SHOOT!! And he's a shooting guard. He might be able to play the three which is the spot we have available, but he won't be able to stretch the floor at the position and I haven't really been impressed with his defense either. He's talent only and while some here say we just need an infusion, I think it's important right now with a new coach and system to get a guy who is going to do well here in that system. The ball sticks to DeRozan and he shoots a poor percentage. Why are some of you content to get a guy like that, who also doesn't really fit our positions of need (SF, Center)? I don't want.
     
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    realism? i'd prefer others, but overpaying derozan beats the hell out of signing another nick young level player, which is a real possibility.
     
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    We suck. We won 17 games. Not turning my nose up at anyone to be honest.
     
  20. ElginTheGreat

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    Agree with all of this.
     

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