NBA Season Part 2: Life In The Orlando Bubble

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  1. OX1947

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    I am going to use a simple analogy to lighten the mood and also make a clear point. It doesn't matter once a dog s***s on your lawn. You come out, you can go house to house and try and find out which neighbors dog s*** on your lawn, but what is the point even if you do find out? Let it go, even if you are in the right. Just go get a bucket and a shovel and solve the issue.

    The issue at hand is there are people who feel like they are being treated like trash. While I do not agree that there are certain things being labeled, let's just say who cares whether it's right or wrong. There is something already not working and their needs to be a compromise. I do not believe this country has a systemic racism issue. Not now anyway. There once was. We have a systemic PLACEism problem. The powers at be do not want simpletons to threaten their money or power. Now, brown and black people are the majority of low income, poverty line so that will look like their being targeted by "White America" to do whatever narrative one would like to project.

    I can not describe this in a Laker forum post otherwise I would need 40 more pages. The evidence other than the media playing everyone doesn't back up this systematic problem. It just doesn't. I feel like so many are just yelling the same stupid line and if you yell it long enough and loud enough people will start to believe it.

    I can not help but be disgusted with Lebron James. He is fanning the flame more and more, to the point where his own people are pissed at him. Udonis Haslem called his d****** out the other day so bad, that is why he stormed out. Lebron James is an immature gas bag. He has not helped s*** in all this because he is child minded fool.

    Is it any wonder why Michael Jordan is great? MJ calmed everyone down the other day and told everyone, need to stop talking and start LISTENING. That's greatness. That is CLUTCH. That is how you handle s***.That's someone trying to find a compromise and a solution, not crying like a little girl.

    In the same way cops need to be better with citizens, the citizens of this country need to also respect authority. SELF PRESERVATION folks. Don't be stupid. You never turn your back on someone who is pointing a gun at you. If you have a warrant for your arrest, you better obey. YOU created that problem for yourself, the cop didn't. The two "hero's" of this movement were not hero's. They were pieces of s***. One assaulted a minor and the other put a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach. Sorry folks, there are two things I do not forgive, one, betraying children and abusing women. Sorry, I can't.

    Now, with that, if you want me to get on one knee with everyone for Ahmaud Arbery? I would get on both knees for him. I followed that story for a month, waiting to see if there was any legit reason why he was being watched and eventually comforted before he was killed. And the news and to watch his parents on the news, broke my heart. Took a month before they arrested those f***s, THAT is something to be angry about, that is something I would stand up for and demand a more effective solution.

    I seriously wasn't planning to write this much but I had to make the point for not only myself but for those out there who are scared to say what they really want because they are afraid to be called racists or bigots. We can not judge everything and everyone in a vacuum. Each situation calls for it's own thing. Stop bundling everything together unless you have valid facts to it.
     
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    i live in CA. moved here 5-6 years ago after being born and raised in canada

    -i know a number of people who own guns
    -i've never had an issue with free speech nor do i know anyone who has
    -the only people getting bullets to the head are people who encounter cops it seems like

    that's the big problem with politics these days. there's always this boogeyman out there that is trying hard to undermine your freedom, rights, etc. "they" will take your guns, "they" will destroy your american way of life, "they" will take away your freedom of speech
     
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    And we back. Let’s get #17 and remember who the true enemy of freedom is: the Boston C Bags
     
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    Agreed. C Bags are filth of the earth and must be stamped out:LLLLLebronlaughing:
     
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    432J, every movement starts with good intentions. Then it usually develops into a power tool.

    California and New York, especially California are run to appease those that are not responsible. Those who are responsible are the ones that have to pull the weight, through taxes, through support, etc.

    The idea that it is ok for a government to tax you without you allowing it is socialism at its most description. We have a gas tax in California that passed in the last election that said California can raise your gas tax without your consent. How in the hell is that democratic?

    That's just one of many. And if you sit back and not pay attention, eventually these government goons will turn this place into a socialist Russia. Have to be careful and not allow yourself to think it can't happen. It will happen if you aren't careful.
     
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    without your consent? prop 6 passed because the voters voted to pass it. that's as democratic as it gets

    what "movement" are you referring to?
     
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    The fuel tax was passed by the state legislature and signed into law by Jerry Brown. Then, Prop 6 came along that wanted to repeal the tax, but it was rejected by the voters directly. So one through representative democracy, the other through direct democracy.
     
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    And of course the name of and the wording of the proposition and all the TV adds misrepresented it like all the props are done that take more money from CA residents. Far too many people have no clue about these bills. Certainly there was copy about the "polluters" being for it and this will stop those evildoers. Really sucks because that last proposition could have stopped this going forward, just raising it whenever.
     
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    Voter ignorance is a thing, but the implication was made that the fuel tax was passed outside the democratic framework.
     
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    You're right. What they did know was that there was a domestic disturbance, Blake wasn't suppose to be there, and there was an alert for him at that address.

    For Kyle, yes he was illegally carrying. Can he claim self defense while illegally carrying? Now it seemed like Kyle was being chased/attacked by the first victim. What led to that incident is currently unknown. If the first incident is true, then he could possibly claim self defense for the 2nd incident. Now he's currently arrested. More was known about Blake, he didn't comply and supposedly a knife was found in his car. So I don't see things equal. There's a lot of unrest in this country and I worry about the messaging. Like the incident 2 days ago in Minnesota when the guy committed suicide, but riots broke out believing the cops killed him.

     
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    He's going to be convicted of a crime regardless if his defense attorney can successfully argue whether the murders were justified or not. I'm of the opinion it wasn't justified self-defense, nor was it premeditated(I don't think it was 1st degree, probably should be manslaughter). But at the end of the day this is all moot, he was in possession of a gun that wasn't his in a state that doesn't allow him to open carry. Yea it's a lesser charge than murder, but it's still a crime.

    So then we go back to what I was asking: If both have committed/are committing a crime, why did one nearly get shot to death and the other allowed to go home for the night?

    You said there was an alert for Blake at that address, well multiple people were screaming at the police that Kyle Rittenhouse just killed someone. So if you are the police and multiple people are yelling at you that the guy who is approaching you with a gun just killed people, you aren't going to at least stop him and ask him what's up? I get that they didn't know he was 17 and the state is open carry, but common sense dictates they would at least question him.
     
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    Game 5 is rescheduled for Sat @6pm pst
     
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    Who do you guys want to face in the conference semi-finals? I'm leaning towards Houston because I don't know if I really like the idea of having AD go at with Adams in the post. He's prone to getting these knick-knack injuries and Adams is ridiculously strong. I much rather have AD punishing Houston's small-ball lineup.
     
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    I dont know. Houston and OKC are locked up right now because Houstons second best player isnt playing. Houston is a much better team when at full strength. I'd prefer OKC getting through.
     
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    The question is was it a dereliction of duty? Did the cops know/hear Kyle was a shooter? In the clip yes we hear one guy mention from afar that Kyle shot someone, but as Kyle came closer to the cops siren went off, cops asking if someone injured ahead, and told people to get off the road as the clip ends. Devils advocate. How much can you audibly hear inside the car windows up? Especially inside a APC.

     
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    I’d rather have OKC. I don’t trust the calls that Harden will get and RW is back now.
     
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    I want Houston. I'm confident we can handle them and I don't want any doubt as to how good this team is.

    If we beat Portland, Houston, Clippers, and then Bucks in the finals, this Lakers team, this season might go down as one of the best teams ever, beating those teams, overcoming all the adversity of distractions, and NO homecourt.
     
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    This might sound strange, but I want Houston in the second round. There are several reasons for this:

    We should be able to beat both of these teams. As I said before - there are even better, deeper and better coached teams than these in the playoffs, and if we can't beat the Rockets and the Thunder, we have no business competing for the championship.

    OKC plays bigger and more physical. There is more chance for one of our guys to get injured in that series.
    Houston is a dangerous team, but they have a bunch of "short," chunky guys and playing tough defense is not exactly their priority. Let's look at that some more -

    Their SF is the same height as Alex Caruso, to put things in perspective. Their PF is more or less like Danny Green. Their starting center is ... get this... 6-5. Our offense is now better, but it still needs some work. Well, KCP, Green and Kuzma should be able to get their shots off pretty easily to get into the groove and Bron+AD are bigger then anyone the Rockets have. Bron can bang with their center without too much trouble. Also, since we simply can't go "small" against them, we might as well play Dwight and lob the ball to him as much as possible. Or lob it to Bron for that matter. Houston team is deep on paper but D'Antoni does not play many guys, as usual. He's going to go 8 deep. Get two of them in foul trouble and that's game. The Lakers are going 10 deep in a close game and 13 deep when they are winning.

    We play the best D in the playoffs, so we should be able to limit Houston's opportunities and slow down their offense.
    We should be able to out-rebound them without too much trouble.
    AD should have a field day against them, because there is no way for anyone on the Rockets team to rough him up and/or prevent him from either scoring inside or taking that short mid-range J.

    Finally I think it would be more fun to watch the LAL-HOU series. They WILL get hot from 3 once or twice for sure, and we'll lose those games. That's not a reason to panic.
     
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    Well OK ..... Houston it is. Next topic on this afternoon’s agenda .....

    :Laugh:
     
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    I don't want to play Houston. It's not that I think we can't beat them. But I don't want to have to white-knuckle it through through 6-7 games of 3-ball after 3-ball falling. That's just dreadful. And I find Harden's play really difficult to watch.
     
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