Marcus Smart Discussion: Welcome To LA

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    Always good to have an enforcer on the team

    Make other players think twice about doing dirty stuff
     
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    I agree with everyone who wants to start Smart over Rui, but it just doesn't seem likely. The FO and JJ wouldn't bench Rui last season even when DFS, Vando, or even Vincent would have made more sense, for similar reasons that people have laid out for Smart.

    Rui seems to play better as a starter also and didn't respond well to being benched 2 years ago. With this being a contract year, they really seem likely to commit to the Rui + Big 3 + Ayton starting lineup. Would look pretty bad to Rui to change it before even trying it.

    That said, I hope I'm wrong (as long as Rui stays effective off the bench), and if not, that they sub in Smart for Rui quickly, like 4 min in or so.
     
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    I agree that it just doesn’t seem likely for the exact reasons you listed. They seem to want to start him regardless of roster balance, and Rui himself just doesn’t try as much off the bench, plus this is a contract year for him. I do think it would be better to start Smart though, with Rui as the first guy off the bench for LeBron or Luka, the defense just isn’t there with him in the starting lineup. Hopefully they figure it out, I would really hate to lose games because of team politics.
     
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    Looking for big things from Smart

    If he's truly motivated then it'll be a huge boost to defensive side of the game
     
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    wait--he ignored luka's first call? that's pretty funny.
     
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    I envision a Dennis Johnson role for him as a starter

    Ayton as The Chief
    LeBron as Cornbread
    Luka as the Hick from French Lick
    AR as the annoying pest who’s face you want to punch
    Smart as DJ
     
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    Wait, you are comparing our players to the green guys

    That's against everything that is Lakers

    The green guys are our enemy for life

    No quarter, ever

    I have a great disdain for everything Boston

    Been a Lakers and Angels fan since the mid 60's and have suffered through many heartaches

    If Boston was on fire I'd have to think twice about pissing on it

    Nothing against you personally, it's just how I feel about them and it will never change
     
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    Really love this signing.

    I don't think he should start (in October and for most of the regular). Reasons why:
    - He just came off 2 seasons not playing much
    - Has some health issues we need to manage
    - We benefit more going with the chemistry we have with Rui in that group (especially to start the season)
    - Rui plays better when starting
    - Rui's value goes up until the deadline that can be important for trades

    I think Smart will close games much more often and maybe in March or so we make that tweak and start him over Rui. There may be some roster movement too by that point as well. But right off the gate I think we have more to gain with Rui starting and Smart slowly picking up his fitness and chemistry with the main group
     
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    I don’t like to compare but the similarities are uncanny
     
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    i think most points are valid here, but some points of divergence:

    -smart's most recent injury was to his hand, i think, plus he was on a tanking team. if anything he should be as ready to go as he's been in years, imo.
    -i think rui's value is mostly as an expiring, kind of regardless of how he plays. it's like the dlo situation--he's more valuable to us than he is in trade. now, maybe, like dlo, we could use his contract to make a slight upgrade during the season (particularly if he has a bad year like dlo did last year), but him playing better may actually make moves harder, imo--in that it will hurt more to send him out the better he plays. remember, too, that whoever trades for him inherits the same sticky contractual situation we have--what do you pay rui? is he a starter? the team trading for him has to feel confident in his role and in their ability to retain him.

    should we extend rui, the dynamics change, but are also problematic. in that case, he better ball out to retain any value at all. this is why i don't think we do that.

    between kevin mchale and lebron james?
     

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