if i see full season stats reported again, i might lose my mind. if you can't see how that's totally irrelevant, there's not a discussion to be had. pretty much the whole reason you're missing my point is that you're not focusing on specific lineups, which was what started the whole thing: a center with gasol's skill set fits better with our other projected starters. thanks for supporting my point? the argument that our offense was better over the season where lebron and AD played and were healthy is indeed, not useful to the discussion. the trez lineup was limited sample size (and it played mostly against second units), but yes, he's also underrated on this forum. i agree. and he should have gotten a chance to play in the playoffs. anyway, i think trading marc for dj is a downgrade. now, if marc's heart wasn't in it, fine. totally understandable given the drummond fiasco. also, he's old and spain is nice. but we lost flexibility in our style of play when we basically got a second, inferior howard.