Malik Beasley Discussion: Free Agent

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  1. Khmrp

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    lol knee-jerk.....yea really need his presence out there...your takes are next lvl tho, props, when beasley airballs that 3 it was ok since ad was tying his shoes while there were no other lakers under the basket, something i would never have noticed
     
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    I like Beas off the bench just need to find the right players to play alongside him.

    He literally has no space though it's crazy. Need to take advantage of that and probably play him a lot with LeBron
     
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    He hit a few threes. Hopefully next game, he’ll hit a few more.
     
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    Yeah, heartening to see some of those threes drop again. I have to say I love having a sniper even if he's streaky as heck.
     
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    yes, i would quite fairly describe your general takes as knee-jerk hate.

    does he play for the lakers? he sucks.

    here you are, talking about a miss from three the next day in a game where he went 2-5 and we won.
     
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    yea i wish i could be like you and come up with your next lvl takes....i wonder what next lvl insight you have for Beasley when Bron returns if he still continues to struggle...oh and it wasnt the just the miss, he brings next to nothing outside of his shooting
     
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    Let’s ease back on the snippiness regarding other’s takes. Thanks.
     
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    BOO!!

    :Laugh:
     
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    malik beasley is a good shooter and the statistics support this over a long period of time.

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    I won't be able to change your mind.

    To me, Beasley is streaky. He is either a great shooter or terrible and the 2-5 (40%) game is the outlier. I could only wish he was 2-5, or even better, 4-10 every game.

    For us, he is shooting 34% from 3. That's not good, that's mediocre for a 3 point specialist sniper type. 38%-42% is good. Anything above 42% is excellent.
     
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    The major point of Beasley is that he opens up the floor for our guys because defenders are GLUED to him! I've honestly not seen anybody glued to one of our guys like maybe ever? Nobody as glued to KCP like that ever.

    Beasley can get hot and when he's hot, he can hit 6-8 threes in one game and that's when we BLOW OUT teams (Pelicans).

    I'm all for Beasley to continue shooting because while he may not bring much else...he can win us a game just with his 3pt shooting. And even if he's not hitting, teams are still guarding him with next to no space which means the floor is open for our guys to operate. That's just as important imo. We didn't have that with Russ/Bev or whoever else...teams were leaving those guys wide open on purpose which is not good for us because we don't have space and those are bad shots even if they're left wide open!

    Beasley will come through for us when we need him...and LUCKILY, we are f***ing deep at his position thanks to Reaves coming into his own.
     
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    i'm told it doesn't matter that teams have to devote a defender to him. it's a "next level" take that teams have to guard him and thus our offense opens up. this isn't real, you see. all that matters is the percentage. which is why everyone knows bruce bowen was the league's greatest three point shooter during his prime, of course.

    james harden shot 33% last year from three, and that's why he's not a good shooter.

    i am good at this game.
     
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    He's a good shooter, it's how good of a basketball player he is which is more concerning to me.
    I'm not sure he's a good enough basketball player to be starting on a title team
     
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    that's fine. it may be true (though if jr smith is, he probably is?). so you just pick up his option, hope it works, and trade him as an expiring if it doesn't. people were more than happy to trade for hield, who is a similar type of player at a higher cost, imo.
     
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    Sorry he's no JR smith - JR was 6th man of the year, he was a freak athlete even in a league full of great athletes and turned himself into a good defender. The dude went to toe to toe with Klay Thompson of all people in the FInals. Don't see Beasley doing that at all and that's my problem with him he add nothing else to the team - you can't trust him on defense, on the break, ballhandling etc.

    Also, he's a good shooter but he clearly isn't a consistent shooter so I would make that move for Hield in a heartbeat if that doesn't compromise any other Laker moves.
     
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    ok. so nobody has really provided evidence that beasley isn't a good shooter, and most agree that having someone who teams have to guard from there is good. my argument isn't meant to be revolutionary.

    i'm the one who said he was an inconsistent shooter when we picked him up. i'm just not trying to burn down villages about it.
     
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    It doesn't matter if he's consistent though because he has earned that reputation as a great shooter over the course of his career - which is WHY nobody gives him space when he is coming off screens or if someone drives they have to STICK to him and not give him any space!

    Idk why this is going over everyone's heads...we actually had something similar with Danny Green. He wasn't the best shooter for us either but you HAD to respect him and not leave him open!
     
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    I'm not disagreeing with this: my issues with him is the sum value of his play though which includes his positives (gravity) is not in the positive territory.
    Maybe it would be different if Lebron wasn't hurt but is it what it is: He's a net negative on both ESPN RAPM and 538 Raptor (both indicate he's bad on defense, 538 he's negative on offense while RAPM he's mildly positive).

    SOme of his mistakes have just been brutal: the TO on the fastbreak where he just lost the ball under no pressure turned into a huge 4-5 point swing as an example.

    At the end of the day he's a bizarro Westbrook right now: lots of gravity but still ends up as negative for the team
     
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    can't dispute he's been a net negative thus far. i dispute the idea that he sucks and can't be a positive contributor going forward.
     
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    I still think the sample is too small to conclude anything substantial...I'd like to see him over the course of a full season or at least a 30-35 game sample. Plus, I wanna see him with LeBron as we didn't get enough of that unfortunately.

    With that said, it's the appropriate move to bring him off the bench because Austin Reaves has been too good to ignore.
     

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