Lakers Plan To Explore Dragic Trade Or Offer Him $20m Per Year In Off-season

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  1. JSM

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    On the Monroe front, Hawks are expected to roll out the red carpet for him. While LA is much more attractive of a destination, he's not our #1 target. That might mean something come summer time.
     
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    I wouldn't say he's defensively r*******. I do think Randle/Monroe could be intriguing. Randle needs to develop that 18' to 20' foot jumpshot with consistency, though. It'd give Monroe the room in the paint he needs to operate. Defensively, I think it could work...depending on personnel, scheme you put around those two...

    Let me add this; could he any worse than Jordan Hill? I think it's a net neutral if we're replacing Monroe with Hill, quite frankly. Add in that Monroe is superior offensive to Hill in every facet, and I think it works with Randall, IMO.
     
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    I think if we don't end up with a big man in the draft, he could jump up into our line of sight really quickly. The Lakers have had their on him for a couple of years now. Atlanta and LA are supposed to be his first two stops this summer when FA hits. If we don't get Okafor or Towns, I think Monroe really could be our first call. Before even Dragic (especially if we end up with Mudiay or Russell).
     
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    I would be happier with Monroe than Dragic. A LOT happier. It seems like pgs are becoming a dime a dozen in today's NBA. Everyone has one, some teams have two or three (not us of course).
     
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    Monroe averaging 15.4 points, 10.4 rebounds, 2.4 assists on 49.2% shooting all while sharing time with Drummond on the floor. Grab him.
     
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    the sad truth is that it's going to be very hard to recruit big name FA's to come play for the lakers when one of, if not the most popular destination in the NBA plays in the same arena. why would any big name want to come to a bottom 5 team with no clear sense of direction? not to mention that kobe is still around which could make things a little more difficult

    i hope we can get a guy like monroe or dragic but it seems very unlikely. building through the draft seems like the most realistic option considering we should be getting a top 3 pick unless the league screws us over again
     
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    No clear sense of direction?

    - We drafted Randle.
    - We have cap space to sign a max player in 2015.
    - We have young talent with Clarkson and Black, and most likely, a Top 5 pick.
    - Since when was playing with Kobe a bad thing?
    - We will have cap space to sign another max player in 2016.
    - It's LA.
    - It's the Lakers.

    It's not coincidence that a player like Dragic and Monroe specifically list LA as one of their desired teams they'd like to sign with.
     
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    This definitely. I don't think we lack direction, we just need the one player who is willing to be the first domino. That means he's not necessarily the best player we'll get, but he's the first and the one that'll attract someone else. We need the Amar'e before Carmelo comes. Dragic wants us and it might be hard to convince him to leave money on the table in Miami, but at least he wants to be here. Monroe and LA have had mutual interest like you've said. I think we're in good shape... as long as we get that pick.
     
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    I love Monroe. I wanted him last summer and a lot of people weren't on board with it. If we miss out on Okafor, Monroe would be a great signing.

    Again though... we just need one. We just need one good free agent to get our ball rolling.
     
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    I'm not bummed about not signing Dragic for max.
     
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    Totaly agree with your thinking. We have a good bench, some young pieces to build around. We need a very good player to take our money in FA.
    I did not expect much now, beceause Hills contract is not tradeable-he must agree, or the team has to pick up his 2 year option, but on draft day and in FA i expect fireworks...
     
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    I still think Love can be had. And if we were to get Love this offseason, we could possibly move Randle for something. Imagine we sign Love, draft Okafor or Towes and pull off some sort of sign and trade of Randle for Brandon Knight...something like that. Not completely out of the question. That puts us back in business pretty quick. And that leaves a nice little hole at sf for that dude in OKC.
     
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    I was happy we passed on Drajic for the money rumored to be his resigning. Get Monroe to pair with Randle next year and we have a great young, cheap post to build around and the money to add a couple stars by 2016 summer
     
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    Miami is the better fit, as they can win more now, and they offered more than the lakers would have. I'm ok with it. if things don't go well there, I'm sure la will be in play in FA. if not, not a huge loss.

    anyone who got moved that I would have had interest in was moved for more than the lakers had to offer, so I'm ok.
     
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    If we end up getting a top 5 pick & getting Okafor/Towns, then that means our pick next year is only top 3 protected. What exactly is the point of staying in rebuilding mode when we're losing our pick next year?

    We'd have a good young nucleus of Okafor or Towns/Randle/Clarkson/pick in 20's. With talented young RFA's on the market like Butler, Knight, Vucevic, & veterans like Dragic, Rondo, Matthews, Asik, Love etc. I think we'd be better off trying to sign 2 of those guys. If we succeed, only THEN do we consider trading Randle or Okafor/Towns. If you have:
    Knight
    Kobe
    Butler
    Randle
    Okafor/Towns

    With Young, Clarkson, pick in 20's, Kelly, Sacre, possibly Davis on the bench. Unless Randle & the other young big are contributing at a high level right away, we'd be throwing away a shot at being a contender next season by waiting for the young guys to develop. No point in that if we already have multiple young talented players in our core.
     
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    We need to stop with the Monroe talk unless we plan on getting Taj Gibson or Ibaka to play PF. Unless you have a defensive minded rim protector at PF, you're getting destroyed in the paint with Monroe as your C. Especially next to an undersized PF like Randle.
     
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    I'd rather have Randle than Love... just my opinion!
     
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    @LakersN4 they can have the pick next year, it'll be in the teens.

    With today's moves, we're not getting two of those names. We'll be paying the max for one of them. Or getting two third tier guys.

    And why move a franchise player for a one year contention window when you're right back to rebuilding within 2-3 years. We need staying power. Getting near the top then getting booted back to the lottery right after you get there is bad business.
     
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    Really? We've won 13 games starting Hill, Sacre, Black at center, could it get any worse? We have to start somewhere. I have to look at Monroe's defensive metrics on/off the with Drummond in comparison to what we have...I think this is getting way overblown.
     
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    The younger guys like Butler/Knight/Vucevic have a max starting at just over 13M. It's not impossible to land 2 of those guys. There are many other young RFA's with low maxes as well. If we get 1 of the older guys like Dragic you're correct, we'd only be able to afford 1.

    & if you think getting Randle back + adding Okafor or Towns puts our pick in the teens, either you know something I don't or you're just a much better fan than I am. Without any major additions via FA I think we'll be right back in the bottom 5, except this time we won't get to keep the pick.
     

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