Lakers Coaching Search Discussion: Going Ham?

Well, they better act s

GOAT

 

Strictly going off this list, Adrian Griffin impresses me most. Hire an offensive minded assistant with a head coaching background to help him navigate his first season in the captain’s chair and let’s roll.

 

it just looks like we're going to end up with a 4th choice with very limited resume, when we're interviewing this many people without a clear frontrunner.

 

I did suggest we get D’antoni to make Lebron, AD and Russ work. I mean he made it work with Harden and Russ and had both averaging 30 pts on a 60ish win pace team. Get a few 3&D players like TJ Warren and Nunn in there and we will be a high powered and high octane offence. Then just rely on AD going supernova on defence for 6 mins to end a key game.

I know, I know, not a great strategy. But I don’t see any possible better ones.

 

Do some of you not know there is ignore functionality on the site,or do you just like to suffer?

 

I actually like all the options in tier 1, 2 and 3. There’s a lot of interesting assistants with new takes like Han, Jensen and Lee and a few good HC options in Snyder, Atkinson and Stotts.

I think we need to grab two of these, one for offence and for defence and hope one has rotation and strategic play skills while the other can inspire and manage egos.

 

I consider rubbish deals like Wall, Hayward or Brogdon with overpaid filler. Neither of those guys are going to give you more than 40 games - as evidenced by the last 5 seasons. The best ability is availability and I don’t want those deals, I’d rather give MDA a shot and swing for the fences. Things fall into places you win a championship, they don’t you have 60-100m in cap space next season.

I largely agree on your CP3 and Ayton points. Phoenix to me was in the right place in the right time but they’ll just be remembered as a flash in the pan. But I do disagree on Bridges. I think he is valuable - DPOY Ironman that are efficient scorers don’t grow on trees. To me he is ideally suited to be a third best player on a team. I think he may develop into as valuable a player as Ben Simmons.

 

yeah, we'll never agree on this. i think DFS outplayed him in the series and is a nearly equally valuable player on half the contract. same with bullock, for that matter. i just don't think bridges is actually as good on d as advertised (he's good, but not dpoy good), and his offense is incredibly limited. i'm also not sure what development he has left. he's 25 and has played 4 years, with his 3rd year (contract year) being the peak. i just wouldn't want my cash tied up there when other teams are getting similar impact at much lower prices. if he's your third-best, you're bad, imo. phx may soon find out.

i think of bridges as a caruso-level player. but you're right, he has been incredibly healthy, which is a bonus.

 

Yeah, young first time coaches will thrive and build their resumé if they can hitch their wagon where there are no expectations and/or there are young players who are actively developing and getting better -- Boston is the latter and NO is a bit of both. With this much uncertainty why on earth would a rookie coach come to a team where all their players are going to be worse then they were the year before (and who knows with AD)? Unless you're going to overpay or give long term security that will outlive Rob and Bron's time in LA, it's a bad bet. We haven't shown we're willing to do of those things either in a really long time.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope A) Snyder or Nurse shock everyone. B) Ham really liked it here as an assistant and has been counting down the days till he could get back to our bench. If we're going the first timer route, he's my pick with a former HC as his lead assistant. But it just doesn't seem like that's a viable option considering where we're at as a franchise.


We want someone here in 5 weeks-ish, so this is going to start moving quicker. Second interviews and crossing names off the list. Hopefully it's step one in a great off-season and not the first train wreck in a series of off-season train wrecks.

 

There is no coach offensive masterminded enough to overcome Lebron and Russ's zero defense. Lebron's is bad enough, but both? I don't think it is possible.

 

It works until you read through multiple pages not knowing whats going on

 

Agreed. Also, What can on offensive mastermind coach do to make Lebron and Russ coexist on the floor together offensively? I mean, Russ has to come off the bench and never play with Lebron, I think.

 

Russ just needs to stay in street clothes.

 

I was thinking about this as well, if I'm Ham I'd totally go for the Hornets positon. They are an upcoming young team with interesting pieces in Lamelo and the other Bridges brother. There's an opportunity to build a culture and make your mark as a head coach.

Take the Lakers gig and you're instantly thrown into the spotlight while there's already a small fire under your seat. And that's not even mentioning the possibly of Russ returning.

With that considered, and Snyder/Nurse being pipe options, I'd go for Stotts.

 

That night be what happens, and if he refuses, then we can revisit trade talks.

At the very least, it will look like we gave it a real shots and it just didn't work.

There's a high likelihood it won't work and we all know this, but maybe the Lakers want to genuinely give it another shot with another coach and hopefully boost their reputation with players.

I could be way off base, but I'm trying to be positive about it.
.

 

It will most likely end up with two of these guys on the new staff. Which one gets the HC gig is still TBD.

 

given how russ talked and acted last year, i don't see how he ever agrees to come off the bench and isn't problematic about it. he'll have to get traded and cut before he accepts that reality, imo.

 

Definitely not an option unless you want to start the season with drama in the locker room. And again, why would a new coach (especially a first timer) want to deal with that?

To stay on that line of thought for a minute: Russ didn't listen to a championship head coach. There is no way in hell he listens to a rookie head coach. Zero. He already thinks he knows best, he would run all over a fresh fish. I don't see how the idea of that marriage is even on the table for the front office.

 

They have to consider all scenarios.

It's their job like it or not.

With respect to the head coach, I'm good with anybody not Mark or Doc and since I don't think they're coming, I am open to anything.

Let's go!!

 

I'd like to see what the new coach has to say on the subject. The Lebron centered offense, is never going to work, unless Lebron and AD are playing in most of our games . James turning 38 next season makes this an even bigger delimma moving forward.