LABron James Discussion: Triple Triple Doubles

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  1. Kenzo

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    I'm surprised Windhorst didn't cry during that report.
     
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    vasashi17 LB's Resident Capologist

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    But you do control your free agency...

    Per Chris Fedor of Cleveland.com:
     
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    it's so obvious that all the lebron free agency talk is serving as a massive distraction for the cavs and it looks like lebron's quit on them already

    that's one of the main reasons i couldn't care less if he came to LA. something doesn't go his way he won't hesitate to quit on his team
     
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  5. vasashi17

    vasashi17 LB's Resident Capologist

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    Amick predicts that it could be a quiet trade deadline in Cleveland. The breadcrumbs are in place for LeByebye 2.0

     
  6. therealdeal

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    That link actually doesn't pose a realistic way for LeBron to get to the Rockets, they just say the Rockets believe they'll be a destination. I'd love to see Morey do the cap jiujitsu to make that happen.

    And if he does, George stays put too and we punt for 2019. The Lakers are doing the right things right now to be a viable landing spot though. Win enough games to make noise.
     
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    Yeah, I'm not a believer at all with Houston being an option. They would have to gut the roster and heavily rely on Harden, LaBron, CP3 to make it work seeing how other than Capela (who probably gets moved to make that 3 work cap wise), Houston has no youth (and no 2018 draft pick) to shore up the bench and help increase the longevity of LaBron and CP3's careers. Meanwhile our youth would help LaBron prolong his playing days.

    They struck out on Melo and with a majority of the teams struggling with the 1.9% in cap this summer, the cap maneuvering will be as restricting as it can get for Morey.

    Lastly CP3 had 17M in cap space to walk into in order to threaten the Clips to trade him to Houston. Houston has no such cap space this coming summer for LaBron to threaten Gilbert with into a trade. And even if he did, would Gilbert relent? Doubt it. Gilbert is actively trying to move all Klutch agency athletes by offering JR and TT along with the Cavs 1st round pick in all trade talks. Bron ain't going to get any support from Gilbert if he needs a trade to Houston. And I'm sure Bron has way too much pride to go to Gilbert to ask for assistance in any way.
     
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    That's a loooong article to have to fight. What say you abeer? We know you have faith they can pull it off.
     
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    The only thing that worries me about this though is (as of late) we are winning on the backs of Randle, Clarkson and Ingram. And for Lebron and PG13 to team up here, only one of those 3 will be here.
     
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    Yeah, but then we win on the backs of LeBron, George, and Ball. :D

    I'd be happy to keep Randle, but if I could turn Randle/Clarkson into George/LeBron, then I am an alchemist and I've discovered how to manufacture money. That's basically what we're trying to do here.

    Keep in mind also that these are games won with Ball as a factor. I would think having Ball back would mean leaning on him more and on Clarkson/Randle less.
     
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    Randle is that physical force that will be missed in some ways... Clarkson can be replaced with that Villanova kid. Ingram I'd be loathe to give up with his versatility on both sides of the ball.
     
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    Losing Clarkson much as I like him and know he will get even better in years ahead for LeBron to come here wouldn't have me feeling more like this for watching Julius's coming years and then his prime beast years to come after those.... in another uniform.

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    Randle's half court game is still unrefined but hard to replicate that relentlessness on the boards, his willingness to switch on the perimeter against quicker guards and not be a statue. He also can bring the rock up court even if he is good for an offensive foul a game. Funny I didn't see one yesterday. Being coachable is another quality Randle has going for him.

    Sure, his stats doesn't project to surefire wins but he is not a total stiff out there either.
     
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    Speaking of fouls or rather his relative lack often of foul trouble that was an unfair rap on him too why he couldn't be a starter or play that quantity of minutes.
     
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    i read it; it basically says what i've said: lebron can get to houston pretty easily if he opts in. the author's only rebuttals are:

    a) cleveland fans would be upset with the return (?--i think, i didn't quite follow the logic there).
    b) the rockets owner won't pay.

    for a): we've seen worse. and the author admits that gordon's not a negative trade commodity and is in fact probably the opposite. throw enough picks in, and it could happen.

    for b): we can't know that. we also can't know how big of a discount paul might give to get lebron in uniform.



    so, i appreciate the breakdown, and i was already dubious of the first two scenarios, but nothing i read there gives me the same confidence that the author has regarding the likelihood of the opt-in and trade.
     
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    ahahhahahahahahahahahhhaha
     
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    Aren't you also assuming the Cavs are even willing to facilitate that move? There's no threat that LeBron can walk to Houston without Houston pulling off the near impossible and if I'm Cleveland, similar to the Paul George situation, I'm not helping him get to Houston. I'd rather cut the cord and start fresh than take on a bunch of salary to pay the luxury tax for a lottery team. There's no incentive for Cleveland to help LeBron here. Is the 29th pick in the draft every other year for 8 years worth paying a massive luxury tax bill? Nah. Let LeBron go walk to LA like he's been threatening. They're worse and his road back will be longer and I don't have to pay massive bills to help him succeed.
     
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    eh, here's where magic and rob screwed up again: would you rather trade him to houston or watch him walk to the lakers, who have been (quite obviously) trying to set the stage for his arrival for over a year? the same lakers that irked you so much that you got the league to block the chris paul deal? those lakers? don't underestimate gilbert's pettiness. pritchard can hold his beer.

    they can re-route gordon for a 2nd rounder or two, demand that houston's picks be further into the future and with very little protection (like the lakers deal for nash, which we're still paying for).

    i think they can get under the lux tax, and being under the cap doesn't matter if you're cleveland: nobody wants to play there. besides, everyone ignores that they can also easily unload love's salary on one of the have-nots with cap space this summer (possibly the lakers).

    people just aren't being creative enough with this. if lebron wants to go to houston, he can make it happen pretty easily, imo.
     
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    Or you're just convinced and refuse to look at the actual logistics. Reports from people with extreme and intimate knowledge of the cap are saying this would be extraordinarily difficult and you're bandying about trades like they're easy to accomplish. I dont think it'll be easy at all to just flip players around for Cleveland and you're ignoring their luxury tax implications.

    Houston is a possibility but it's a very, very long shot to happen, longer than the Lakers.

    And if I'm the Cavs I pick letting him walk. I avoid taxes and keep him from getting what he wants. I'm not helping him win a ring for another city even if costs me 4 end of the round picks. This isn't about cap space it's about not paying 100s of millions extra for a non-contender. No thank you.
     
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