Kobe Bryant Discussion: Mamba Out!

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  1. Alcindor

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    Keep in mind Miller's perspective as a player. Kobe was just a pup coming into his own vs Miller in the finals whereas Jordan had just spent the last dozen years handing Miller his *** on a platter. Saying Jordan is 10x better on his worst day than Kobe just points out a lot of personal feelings surfacing and just uncontrolled hyperbole. No one needs to expose the absurd math or just common sense descrepencies in that statement. MJ himself has said Kobe is probably the only player that's come along that could beat him one on one and has long lauded Kobe's killer instinct and play. Basically he's declared Kobe #2.

    I expect Kobe to respond, not sure what he'll say but I can almost guarantee the word "ring" will be in it.
     
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    No offense to Reggie, but he has no business being in the Hall of Fame.
     
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    I still remember Jordan's 810 point game on his worst day as if it was yesterday.
     
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    Btw, Reggie is a knucklehead.
     
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    That pup beat him in the playoffs though. Sure that season we rode Shaq all the way, but Kobe was still a key to those Finals.

    Maybe though Miller simply didn't have to guard Kobe at his best so he doesn't get it. He doesn't understand really.
     
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    You guys shouldn't forget when Jordan scored 620 on the Mavs in 3 quarters.
     
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    He also single handily out scored them that game too.
     
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    Fixed.
     
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    you also couldn't play zone in the Jordan era. imagine kobe gets an entire side of the floor to himself while he isolates in the midpost. I think he averages 40 right now.
     
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    I don't mind, actually. it's this kind of idiotic hyperbole that can start shifting some of the conversation the other direction.
     
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    Kobe would have passed Jordan a long time ago if Kobe got the same foul treatment as the other stars of the league.
     
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    "Michael Jordan On His Worst Day Is 10 Times Better Than Kobe Bryant On His Best Day" - Reggie Miller

    Dam.. Just imagine how many times a bad Jordan is better than Reggie on his best day.
     
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    What Reggie said is true.
     
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    What reggie said was flat out stupid. Discredit Kobe to make MJ seem even greater? Thats ridiculous. So MJ on his worst day ever is still 10 times better than Kobe? The mere idea of that is beyond stupid. It sounds like sour grapes to me. There is no way anyone who understands basketball could even utter such nonsense. Next he'll say that Kobe on his best day isn't 5 times what Bron is on his worse since Bron is the greatest ever under MJ.
     
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    Kobe on his best days scored 81, and 62 through 3 quarters. Or put up 48 points and 16 rebounds in a playoff game vs the Kings. Or had a 9 game streak of 40 or more points. So what Reggie said is idiotic, and he can shut up. All he had to do was say Jordan is better, but to take it to that degree is stupid. A 19 year old Kobe was able to put up 33 vs Jordan, if anyone says prime Kobe couldn't hang right there with him or even best him in some games they're kidding themselves. It's basketball, it's a game, one can only be so good at it, Jordan didn't reach some God like level nobody ever has or will come close to. Basketball is like ball, it's all a circle.
     
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    Dumb talk from Reggie. Very dumb. I would have expected more from him than that garbage. The guy went to UCLA and he's talking that nonsense? Come on fellow Bruin, you are embarrassing us.
     
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    March 28th, 2003: Lakers vs. Wizards

    Kobe Bryant: 55 points 5 rebounds 3 assists 3 steals 15/29 FG(51.7%) 9/13 3PT (70%) 16/18 FT(89%) 41 minutes played
    Michael Jordan: 23 points 0 rebounds 4 assists 1 steal 10/20 FG (50%) 0/0 3PT (N/A) 3/4 FT (75%) 41 minutes played

    "Oh but therealdeal you know the Wizards don't count! Jordan was past his prime!"

    Doesn't that ostensibly mean he's having one of his worst days? Not to mention Kobe in 2003 wasn't the complete player he was even a year or two later. Two years later Kobe would outscore the Mavericks through 3 quarters. Three years later Kobe would score 81 points. Four years later he'd score 50 points 4 games in a row. During the Mavs game he had 8 rebounds and a steal and didn't play the 4th quarter. During the 81 point game he had 6 rebounds, 3 steals, and a block. During the 4 game 50 point streak he averaged 6.25 rebounds, 2.75 assists, and 1.5 steals.

    Clearly Kobe's best days were still far ahead of him when he absolutely crushed Jordan at Jordan's last Staples Center appearance. How was what Reggie said true?
     
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    Finally someone at ESPN talks some sense. Well, maybe not about the NBA being better today, but pretty much everything else. Sorry for the quality, recorded it off my tv.

     
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    Reggie just lost any respect i had for him..he sounds like a hater and a sour loser smh
     
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    quality was just fine. I agree with their premise that Kobe has had the better competition to play against but to be fair to Jordan he still had some great teams to go up against. C Bags, Pistons, Lakers,.... But on a player to player level Kobe by far had the tougher players to go up against and he had to do it in the West.
     
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