Kobe Bryant Discussion: Mamba Out!

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  1. svtzr

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    It’s been a rough two days. I’ve been going through a strange numb deep sadness and an unyielding determination.

    I haven’t reflected this deeply on my attitude in a long time and what kind of life I want to live going forward. The thing with Kobe, he enjoyed the journey, not just the destination. It was never about the awards and accolades. It was about the process and never cheating himself or the game. It was a way of being, a way to stand for things worth standing for and a way to live a life worth living.

    What a legacy this man leaves and it’s made me look at myself and whether I give everything I have each day, and if I don’t, whether I’m happy with that. Because in a blink of an eye it might all be gone...
     
  2. JohnnyComeLately2k6

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    These were taken from a couple of blocks away from work last night:
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    A friend of mine pointed something out that is just stunning and impossibly sad. With the exception of Wilt, basically all of the all-time basketball greats outlived Kobe. Russell, Cousy, West, Baylor, Dr. J, Kareem, Bird, Jordan, Magic, Hakeem, Walton, Oscar. . . all still alive.
     
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    Kobe's final game was the single greatest act of will I've ever seen in sports. That's my number one Kobe moment. 60 points? On that busted up body? At the end of his 20th season? Are you kidding me?

    But no, I couldn't watch it tonight. I have it taped from when my family and I watched in real time, in disbelief and awe and appreciation. It's too close to home right now. My emotions are too raw. I'll watch it again some day, but not now. I need some time.
     
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    Anyone who's known me from CL is no stranger to how I felt about Kobe for a long time. My favorite player on any level collegiate or professional regardless of the sport will always be Shaq. I've learned to appreciate Kobe before he retired, because there was no maybe another day in his approach. When you can injure yourself as badly as he did and still go to the line and hit free throws is really practicing what you preach. Out of high school he wasn't built physically like many out of college but for 20 years he never settled did he. All star games guys said they were careful around him because he would try and learn their moves. The mortality factor sucks so bad, 41. I often discuss age with my brothers how in pro athletes are seen as old when late 30s and 40s are young but seen as old for them. I have two nephews in their late teens and if I lost either one or more than one at once I'd need depression medication. Life isn't fair, and there's no layout that dictates all our lives and why does it still feel like a really weird dream and I'll wake up and realize it was just that. It'll never feel real, and I'm agnostic but I'm hoping that he and his daughter are toget her right now and his family is healing even if just a little at a time it can't be easy.
     
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    wow i feel like you took what was inside my brain and wrote it so much better than i could have.

    thank you.

    ps- ive been thinking a lot about which kobe moment is my favorite. there really is no right answer. but for some reason ive been thinking about this game a lot

     
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    Given all that's transpired, I'll be taking an indefinite leaving of absence from all Lakers related business. Effective immediately.

    I'm sorry I can't bring myself to say much more right now.

    Stay strong everyone.
     
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    I, like a lot of people have been reading and watching all the tributes and memories of the people close to him, Laker nation and everyone whose lives were touched by Kobe. A lot of people were suggesting making Kobe the new NBA logo, renaming some award after him or retiring his jersey number league wide. Those are all great ideas, and I know Kobe would like that, but knowing how he played the game, how he lived his life and how hard he worked at everything , I'm thinking, out of respect not just for the man, but for all the greats of the past as well, that we're taking the bus to away games, or flying coach, or playing 4 games in 5 nights while being paid a fraction of what a role player gets nowadays, or not having the benefit of all these new technologies that take care of their bodies, that can we please for the love of all that's holy, get rid of load management. How can you say that you idolized Kobe and that you patterned your game after him, knowing that he played through all kinds of sickness, broken bones and torn muscles, that he even made two free throws on a torn Achilles, gave the game everything he had until the end, yet you can't even play back to back games? Respect the man by respecting the game he loved so much and devoted most of his life to.
    I watched Isiah Thomas earlier talk about how when he was the Knicks president and he only had the MLE available at the time, he got a call from Rob Pelinka and that Kobe wanted to discuss the MLE with him. Isiah was of course taken aback and said that he did not want to disrespect Kobe by offering him the MLE, but Rob said that Kobe wanted to pay him the respect by giving him the opportunity to make him an offer even if there was no realistic chance of it being accepted. The level of respect and reverence that Kobe showed to the greats that came before him just make him a true icon, and I will really miss him. I'm 46 now and have gone through so much loss in my life. I should not be affected by the passing of someone that I never even met, yet here I am crying thinking about this tragedy, how heart breaking thinking of the last moments he had with Gianna, how hard it must be for his family to just live minute to minute with the loss and grief. They will be hearing nothing but kind words and support, and none of it matters because it will never bring back the loved ones they have lost.We will miss you terribly Kobe, more than anyone of us realize right now. There will never be another quite like you. You and Giana will live in our hearts and minds, forever young.
     
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    yeah those two shots against portland probably rank #1 for me. the GW against phx in 06 would be right behind it
     
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    It’s wild to me how much appreciation Kobe is getting right now with stuff like this, and ESPN for example, I’m trying VERY hard not to be bitter and just celebrate Kobe and appreciate how he’s being covered, but I can’t help but be a little annoyed. All these same people that hated on him for years, calling him ballhog, knocking him down so they could try to elevate others above him in a really dismissive way, ESPN showing “highlights” in his final year of all the missed he’d have in a game all in a row basically with kooky sound effects laughing at him. Now everyone’s crying and every show is covering him, these same people that mocked him and couldn’t say a kind word without throwing in a dig, couldn’t praise his last performance without saying “well he took 50 shots!”, strikes me as incredibly disingenuous and ratings seeking, kinda makes me sick. I apologize if this brings down the mood, but damn, why couldn’t we just appreciate and celebrate this man while he was alive, why did we have to be told, “well, he wasn’t as good as ____”. Who cares. That’s a major reason I’ve come to appreciate LeBron as a Laker, there’s no need to knock greatness down a peg, just enjoy it, just appreciate it.
     
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    Love my CL family. But I think I am getting worse. Not better. I can’t watch any more coverage or tributes. I can only come here and see your pains and share in them. I don’t even care about the SB anymore - and I have been a diehard 9er fan since 1980. This is just so hard. And I never met the man - seen him play numerous times and dreamed of our daughters paying each other in college.
     
  13. KB24

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    @Weezy

    well said. Those who hated him are now celebrating him....I guess whatever gives you clicks is the right thing to do.

    With that said...its 2 days now and breaking news: life still sucks and I'm still having tears every couple of hours. I hope at some point we can really move forward and appreciate and celebrate him and his accomplishments instead of just getting sad thinking about tragic ending...its a tragedy of insane proportions, which impacts millions of people around the world.

    Kobe really was the "bad guy" that turned into the "good guy" in the publics eye. His image skyrocketed ironically, as soon as he started to lose his superhuman basketball powers...when his prime was over, people slowly started to appreciate who he is and what he stands for and after his retirement his popularity went up again.

    Its such an unbelievable tragedy and such a senseless dead. I think if he would have had a heart attack or a disease or something, I'd have an easier time to deal with it as it is kind of part of life. But crashing into ashes and taking Gigi with you, who was supposed to carry on the torch and who was a 13 year old ambitious kid...I feel like I got robbed of watching another Bryant rise to stardom...its just unbelievably sad.
     
  14. Weezy

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    Apologies if this was posted already, but it was one of the best vids I’ve seen so far



    Sasha’s post


    And echoing what I said above

     
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    Well said @KB24 and @Weezy

    Btw, if anyone ever tells you that shaq carried kobe, they arent lying ;)

    Hope this pic can bring a smile to our faces in this tough time

     
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    In my experience death never really gets easier, just further away and different. Maybe you get more used to the feeling of it, but that doesn’t mKe it easier. And tragic, gut wrenching, senseless death like this, is a whole other level, it will always hurt. But yes, we will have to look back on the memories fondly like we did when he retired, and we’ll have to tell stories about him decades from now for those who never watched him.
     
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    Don’t forget this one.

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    Was anything going to stop him from playing the next game with that ankle?

    “Any snipers in the room?”.
     
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    Sorry If repost

     
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