Kevin Love ‘will Seriously Consider’ Opting Out, Eyes Return To L.a.

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    I get trying to make the forum more female friendly, but the joke isn't really insulting to females. We're talking about a basketball player nicknamed Superman here. Dwight is known for having many personality traits you would normally associate with a female. There's nothing disrespectful to women about calling him Superwoman. Nothing about it says that women are lesser than men, just that women are not the same as men & there's plenty of scientific research backing up that fact.
     
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    If we're going that route, then no, there isn't any research on differences in personalities of men and women. Even if there is, association does not imply causation - that is to say, every personality is independent, and because you're born with a penis or vagina doesn't mean you have certain personality traits or not.
     
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    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...-in-personality-are-larger-previously-thought

    I won't dig too much into it just the first paragraph.

    Sensitive, not emotionally stable, not dominant, apprehension(the in-decision/Dwightmare).. All things you would associate with Dwight.. All personality traits more common in women than men.

    Obviously not every woman or man falls into these guidelines, but according to this study only 10% fall outside of the rule. I didn't go out of my way to find a study that backed up my point, it's the first result if you google "differences in female and male personalities".. I'm not trying to put women down & that's not something I stand for at all.. I'm just pointing out that there are clear personality trait differences between men & woman & Dwight shares some of those common female traits, so there's nothing about calling him Superwoman that should offend a woman.
     
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    If there is no inherent insult intended when you change "Superman" to "Superwoman" then what is the purpose of changing it?
     
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    Love overrated ? No. The man can hit from anywhere and has the makeup of a winner. He's a no bs guy too- perfect running mate for kobe and not a choke artist like LBJ. Before all the james lovers start talking let's remember than Spurs were a lucky shot away from another crushing defeat for james and while skilled and a great player I think james biggest foe is his mind. He's sensitive which is great but also part of his weakness like d12.

    And none of this post has anything to do with gender.
     
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    You have to make the playoffs first before you can be labeled a choke artist. For you to put him ahead of Lebron in that facet is disrespectful to Lebron. (And I don't even like LBJ).
     
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    I didnt mean his over rated as far hes not deserving of any of the LOVE he gets haha, but like Doc pointed out hes never even been to the playoffs, I feel a lot of his credit is based on stats and doesnt have that dominating D. I see him as a perfect Robin to somebodys Batman so far from what ive seen,could EASILY be wrong though because hes still young and growing as a player,barely scratching his prime. Can Robin kick azz by himself? Heck yeah, I love me some Robin who does whatever he can to take care of business.

    IF Rose can stay healthy, maybe Paul George comes back, also to be completely honest I see the Heat still having a good shot to get back to the finals due to their system being in place still, Cavs maybe dont even see the Eastern Conference Finals. Maybe in the playoffs Love doesnt get used at all cause Lebron and Kyrie trying to drive on every basket, Love decides perhaps that Cleveland isnt the best place for him long term.
     
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    Dwight is a man.. A professional athlete known as 1 of if not the strongest guy in the league.. Pointing out his feminine traits is an insult to him, not women. If you told Dwight to his face he was indecisive, not dominant, & emotionally unstable, I'm sure he'd take offense to it/deny it. But we've seen that it's all true.
     
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    Back on topic.. Love can come out & deny it all that he wants, but Bosh's predictions about Love having to sacrifice a lot of his game & becoming the 3rd wheel all looks to be on point so far. Let's see if he can handle a whole season of only putting up 17/11. If that happens & they don't win a ring, I think it'll atleast make him think about leaving.
     
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    That is my thought on it. If they get to the Finals, then I think he resigns with a 3 year opt out clause. If they struggle, the blame will largely fall on him, Kyrie and the supporting cast. In that case, I can see him bolting on them.

    Regardless, he does appear to be the clear third option on that team and we will see how well he handles that.
     
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    Lebron is a choke artist. Period. Has zero to do with love.
     
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    I dont think they get there, I truly believe IF Rose is healthy(I think George does not come back due to them risking the max contract they gave not too long ago), AND/OR Heat dont have any significant injuries, Cavaliers wont make it past them. To be quite honest, I see the Heat as the Spurs of the East, I think they go back to the Finals again even without Lebron. Deng is no joke, and suits himself quite well with Wade(whose been looking rejuvenated/motivated) and Bosh.

    Back on subject, Love is CLEARLY the third option because Lebron and Kyrie are dominant ball handlers so its just the nature of the beast. To be quite honest I dont think Love cares about the stats because hes shown what hes capable of, but if they dont get anywhere, it wont be his fault and he can bounce out without any heat what so ever.
     
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    Back to Klove. Garnett never won in Minnesota but no one doubted his skills. History will prove Klove to be a top 50 player. And I'm not saying james is not already a top 50 player. But he is not clutch like magic, bird, kobe, or even shaq circa 2000-2001.

    Stats don't make a player valuable. Wonder if love and james egos can co-exist. Kobe and shaq imploded. Hardaway and shaq imploded. Wade and shaq imploded.
     
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    Don't put KG and Love in the same sentence. KG took the Wolves to the playoffs 8x in his time in Minny, Love couldn't even get them to a .500 record one time during his career there.

    Top 50 player? He's going to have to pass some seriously good players if he wants that title and it won't happen playing 3rd fiddle on a Cavs team.
     
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    You're simply listing negative feminine stereotypes and that's insulting. Is it true that women can be prone to those traits? Maybe. It's also true that men have negative stereotypes as well, but would you not be insulted if you were called crass, gross, unkept, and bullish?

    I don't want to keep this going in the public thread but the point needs to be made. Calling Dwight "Superwoman" is inherently disrespectful towards women. Just please try to keep that in mind that's all I'm asking. Next to time try to think of something more gender neutral that's all I'm asking is the thought be there. Thank you for being understanding.
     
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    Garnet in his day could dominate a game on a level Love can not. Garnet wasn't just a two way player, in his prime, he was one of the greatest ever at his position.
     
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    Honestly the main reason the Wolves couldn't get anywhere was they kept having to play against guys like Kobe, Shaq, and Duncan....
     
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    Atleast to the camera he shows alot of love to Lebron. I don't think he will leave the Cavs so soon.
     
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    Because he likes LeBron as a person and team mate? It is all gravy right now, he really doesnt have THAT much pressure on him, he plays in the East and they already know theyre easily going to the playoffs lol. Id be a happy dog myself after what he was going through with the Wolves.
     
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    My gawd. Some love haters in here. Kg won't even be regarded as top 50.
     

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