Julius Randle Discussion: Beast, Ox, Monster, Lotus Flower

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  1. Juronimo

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    Nah, that just means he knows a winner when he sees one.
     
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    Manny's a winner too..... errrrrr ..... with a few "demerits" in the L column. [​IMG] Would rather have seen the pic taken with him. Randle with Manny's personality >>> Randle with Money's personality. So now we know we have this "negative" with Randle going forward ....... he doesn't choose his photo ops well. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]



    Do it Manny .... do it!! ... shock the world! [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    I agree with some of this, I wouldn't take WCS at 4 or 5. But before I took Winslow or Johnson I'd try to shop the pick for a somewhat proven young SF or C. If we can't pull that off, draft Winslow or Johnson. I'd consider Biyombo over Asik because he might be cheaper, could give us similar play, & gives us another young piece to our core at only 22 years old. But I'd be happy with Asik too. Also there's no reason to go cheap with Mo Williams if we're signing a cheaper C like Asik or Biyombo. I'd go after a target with a higher pricetag & the potential for a higher payoff. The player I have in mind is Monta. I know noone wants to limit Clarkson's playing time, but between backing up both guard spots, Kobe's minutes being limited & sitting back to backs, potential injuries, & a rookie SF that might require Kobe playing some SF, I think Clarkson would get plenty of minutes. I also think we need to be thinking big picture. If Kobe retires after next season, Monta is a very good piece to have. He can step in & take over a lot of the scoring load. I remember reading a great article about Monta that talked about how high his winning % is when he's next to a guard who can guard PG's well or knock down the 3, & I think Clarkson is going to be good at both, he'd be a great fit next to Monta.
     
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    Hey, what else do we have to do as we root for Memphis or Golden State to win the NBA championship this year? UNLESS ..... kind of like a mercy f*** ([​IMG] ) some one has taken it upon themselves to go find us some Houston DOOM after game 3 against the Clippers. That, would smoke this trivia. [​IMG]

    Julius Randle attends "Mad Max" movie premiere
    By Harrison Faigen@hmfaigen on May 8, 2015, 5:36p 2

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    No word yet on if it gave him flashbacks to the Lakers' locker room this year.

    File this under the perks of being a Los Angeles Laker: Julius Randle attended the premiere of Mad Max: Fury Road a week before it releases everywhere else.


    Mad Max probably looked familiar to Randle given that the 2014-15 Lakers season was basically a barren apocalyptic wasteland straight out of the film. I mean, look at this real, not at all photoshopped image of Randle from this season:



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    That movie probably just looked like a normal day at the office.


    http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/...benefits-julius-randle-mad-max-movie-premiere
     
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    What a handsome couple.
     
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    In the open court look out.... could get hurt guarding him ..... [​IMG]

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    Im torn. Do we play Randle&Okafor side by side, or IMO, play Okafor at more of a natural position at PF and force Randle to play SF or comes off the bench?

    No way he gets traded IMO unless we let him build his value up and trade him at deadline.
     
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    Dude. Okafor is not a pf. He's a center through and through. There is zero chance he could play pf in this league and defend.
     
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    Apologized in other thread, I thought he could play center but was I really the only one that heard the noise as far as him being Duncan 2.0 and him playing next to a dominant big?

    Well then its done, the goal should be getting Leonard/butler/middleton now.
     
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    Yeah he's got a Duncan vibe. Duncan is one of his personal heroes and he modeled his face up game after him.

    But he's bigger than Timmy. He's got at least another 20 pounds on him and I would guess a little taller too. Same basic athleticism though.
     
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    So... what's our final take on Randle's ability to play as a fulltime SF?

    He's got the quickness, size and handles, so I guess it comes down to his shooting and defense.
     
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    I'm trying to understand this notion that Randle can play SF... dude can't shoot well. He's faster than most PF's. He's stronger than most as well. He's the perfect size for a PF. Why switch him to SF? lets not take him out of his position...

    Plus, the last thing I want, is Randle to become a perimeter player... We need guys that are willing to bang inside and rebound. You play Randle and Towns/Oakafor side by side.
     
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    I agree with you, but given that we currently have zero SFs on our roster, we may need to ask Randle to play out of position.

    And you could say the same thing about Lebron. He's bigger and faster than most PF's. And he couldn't shoot coming out of high school.

    This is just hypothetical. But if worst comes to worst, and we strike out in free agency (or if we sign Love) it could become reality. So it's worth discussing.
     
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    Couldnt agree more.
    Heres another thought, say we take okafor and know can land gasol/aldridge/jordan/monroe/love/maybe even a few of the PFs out there...

    Would you consider trading randle for winslow/johnson? I would only IF that means signing another legit big man.
     
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    That won't happen. Randle's value is really low outside the Lakers world, and we won't get equal value in return.

    Whether or not you agree, could we just discuss Randle's potential as a SF? I know his natural position is PF, but I genuinely would like to hear some thoughts on this.
     
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    NOO. This guy MAY be not only a great player in the future but an Alpha Dog leader as well. Gives that vibe big time.
     
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    I agree LT! He has the potential to be the next big thing based on his demeanor. You don't give up on that. We are going to try and build for the draft and if we can successfully do that we could build another dynasty. The crystal ball is hazy, that's for sure, but we have potential.
     
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    My fear with him moving to SF is this.... Anyone notice how Jordan Hill became a jumpshooter? After that, his dirty work down below became almost non-existent. Dude wasn't rebounding like a mad-man, he was constantly out in the perimeter. His inside game was literally gone... We don't need more jump-shooters.. we need guys that are willing to bang on the inside and do the dirty work... We make Randle go SF, his rebounding and hustle inside the paint will be non-existent and might become used to that.. WE DON'T WANT THAT
     
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    I hear you and I don't disagree. Moving Randle to SF is far from ideal. I get it.

    But that's not what I want to talk about. I want to hear what others think his strengths and weaknesses are as a SF.
     
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    I don't think it would take rocket science to see a lighter, still strong as hell, quicker and more mature Julius Randle at the 3 at least "some of the time" and have it turn out swell in our favor. Certain match ups. Don't put him there if difficult match ups. But the ones in our favor pity the guy on the other team having to defend Julius. I still remember the quote from someone at Summer League 2014 saying, " you can get hurt defending this guy".
     
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