Jeremy Lin: Too Flagrant Not to Call

Discussion in 'NBA Discussion' started by thkthebest, Apr 26, 2016.

  1. thkthebest

    thkthebest Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    1,679
    Likes Received:
    2,300
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    This is a few weeks late, but a fan on Reddit made a video of the unfair treatment that Jeremy Lin has been getting by the refs. Video went viral, and you can watch it here:



    Former NBA ref / Director of Officials retweeted the video:



    Tom Haberstroh also tweeted a video that states that Lin is the only guard who received that many fouls and no flagrants during that time span (813 fouls / 0 flagrants).



    NBA responded, and a few days later, Lin, who averages 3.7 free throws per game, shot 10 free throws in just the first half!

    Is Lin getting unfair treatment? If so, how much (if at all) do you guys think it's because he's Asian?
     
    Exonyte and alam1108 like this.
  2. Weezy

    Weezy Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    19,106
    Likes Received:
    78,084
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Anaheim
    Offline
    The video makes a really good point (though incident #4 looked exaggerated for effect), but I can't come up with a reason in my mind that the refs would target Lin. I can't come up with a rationale, I can't think of how this benefits the refs by not making these calls for him yet making them for others. Do you really think it's because he's Asian? I can't come up with a reason why that would be the case. I'd think maybe him flopping a lot would be a more reasonable conclusion as to why the refs don't take a 2nd look at his plays, the whole crying wolf thing.
     
    gcclaker likes this.
  3. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,249
    Likes Received:
    21,128
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    Lin is not being targeted. At the height of Linsanity, he had calls going his way. I am happy for him that he is playing well and making some impact in the playoffs.
     
  4. pound4pound

    pound4pound - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2014
    Messages:
    2,022
    Likes Received:
    4,836
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    the refs should take this same approach to James Harden
     
  5. thkthebest

    thkthebest Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    1,679
    Likes Received:
    2,300
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Funny enough, Dudley kind of had the opposite take. He said that Lin needs to act more. Basically, he said that this is an acting sport, and players are taught to fall on the ground and stay there. To him, Lin doesn't exaggerate the contact enough for the refs.

    That was only 7 games though. Lol. During that 7-game Linsanity sample, he averaged 8 FTA per game (definitely a lot). If he somehow maintained that throughout the season, that would have been 4th in the league in FTA per game (right above Kobe's 7.8 lol).

    I think...we all do. :)
     
  6. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,249
    Likes Received:
    21,128
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    This seven days a week and thrice on Sundays...
     
  7. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,062
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    It could be race.

    I like to think it has more to do with him being too nice about it. He's a nice dude and the refs walk over him because of it.
     
    RasAlgethi and thkthebest like this.
  8. gcclaker

    gcclaker Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,249
    Likes Received:
    21,128
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Wherever I am at the moment...
    Offline
    It was unfortunate that it dissipated shortly. I did enjoy that phenomenon. It was good for The League.
     
    thkthebest likes this.
  9. alam1108

    alam1108 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    13,586
    Likes Received:
    37,190
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Laker Land
    Offline
    Well you know, he still has trouble getting past stadium security.
     
    thkthebest likes this.
  10. Cookie

    Cookie The Dame of Doom Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2015
    Messages:
    4,494
    Likes Received:
    22,414
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I don't think it is because he's Asian. I think it's because he's quiet and doesn't complain like some other players. You know.... Squeaky wheel, gets the grease.
     
  11. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    12,277
    Likes Received:
    25,076
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    The Don whisperer
    Location:
    Las Islas Filipinas
    Offline
    Refs are Kung Fu movie fans. Chops to the arm without breaking are fair play. If JLin doesn't bleed or his head doesn't topple, the game goes on.
     
    gcclaker likes this.
  12. wcsoldier81

    wcsoldier81 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    5,245
    Likes Received:
    10,120
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Terrible stuff ... There is clearly a negative bias towards Lin ... He's too nice so he's the perfect scapegoat for teammates , fans ect ...

    Of course the fact he's Asian is playing a role here .... Asians are often "described/laughed at" as men with little virility by the rest of the world .

    Fans around the league like calling Lin soft .... The way he keeps attacking the rim and willing to take physical hits is anything but soft
     
  13. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    12,277
    Likes Received:
    25,076
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    The Don whisperer
    Location:
    Las Islas Filipinas
    Offline
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
  14. RasAlgethi

    RasAlgethi Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2014
    Messages:
    1,396
    Likes Received:
    3,420
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Laker Land
    Offline
    Its likely a combination of the above and the fact that he doesn't exaggerate contact enough. He's having great series though, Im happy for him. I do think he's a great bench guy, borderline starting guard.
     
    therealdeal likes this.
  15. wcsoldier81

    wcsoldier81 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    5,245
    Likes Received:
    10,120
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Expect for Philippines Kareem the great so you all good

    Plus you all seem to like B-ball and the Lakers :rock:
     
    KareemtheGreat33 likes this.

Share This Page