eventually it will affect sales You have the all time leading scorer on your team, won a chip just a few years ago, still have some stars, but if it doesn't equal winning, ticket sales and merch sales will go down. Hopefully we don't get to that point, but maybe it's actually what we need to have happen.
That’s where you wrong my friend . Our merch sales and ticket prices will NEVER go down . We are not the sac kings or the clippers . There is sooo much tradition and history with the Lakers that Jeanie will never ever has to lift a finger !
Based upon the other teams on that list, you may very well be right. We're dealing with the 2nd largest city in the US, but the best basketball team history wise in combo with population. In addition to that the worldwide popularity. We'd have to suck for a long time to not be in the top 10 on merch sales. "But you gotta have goals!" --Jeanie (Probably)
I think that "too big to fall" perspective is what has killed many big brands. The world is changing dramatically in the past 20 years, the new generations are completely different from my one or older ones. That changes the whole dynamics of business, marketing and popularity. Yes, the Lakers are miles way the biggest brand in the NBA right now but I'm not sure if they'll be in 10/20 years if they suck for too long
Yes but the new generations are not so much into sports as the previous ones. They also look for the next shiny thing and there's less fandom. They also have access to much more entertainment than before. Those are all risks that may lead to the Lakers losing that power and market dominance within the next couple decades Btw, in terms of valuation the Lakers are 10th in sports. In terms of following they are 12th, behind 11 soccer teams
Jeannie needs to forget about the rebuild and try to win this year. The Lakers and Dodgers are the most important teams for LA and after these fires, folks deserve to cheer and get their minds off this natural disaster. If they don't win it all fine but some seasons can do become more important then others
We're still the biggest brand in the league, but we shouldn't underestimate how Kobe's singular popularity, even in death, continues to prop up that brand. There are going to be lean years when LeBron hangs them up and AD maybe goes elsewhere. We're going to need a new young face of the franchise or risk becoming something closer to the Cowboys. Still the most popular team on the league, but its built sole on nostalgia.
Color me oblivious but I don't think we are NOT trying to win this year. With our limited number of fine young players we really should not give up for anything less than a superstar (certainly not available this past summer/early season, and won't be at the deadline) or perhaps ever (see the pre-LeBron sucking lotto years) ..... and no bites for fair trades for DLO and 2nds or a not core role player until the Nets took them for DFS and Shake .... it was the correct WAIT by Pelinka. Now we just have to suck it up as fans, and IMO not expect impossible or bad moves to be made between now and the deadline ..... and hope the same intelligence happens with a bigger move and let's hope it's Kessler somehow without getting screwed for more than the protection off 27 first and one more first and none of our "Best" core future players here now. We NEED the YOUNG competent LEGIT BIG man going forward. He's the perfect choice per everyone I trust here that knows his capabilities to correct the Zubac disaster.
lebron saved us once; we'll need someone else to do it next time. AD-despite being an underrated superstar, imo--just doesn't have the cache. so once lebron is out, we'll be in scramble mode for the next guy or risk going down that same path again and becoming the cowboys/former knicks, etc.
I think you're misunderstanding my sentiment - the Lakers shouldn't make bad lopsided trades just to make a move. What I'm saying is Jeannie has to make it clear is that she would be willing to move the 1st rounders if the right trade comes along (at least internally you don't broadcast this to Shams). We haven't had any indication that the Lakers are considering moving them
you think so? i don't. i think it's been obvious those picks are GONE the second an allstar in his prime can be had for them. and not available for anything less. that latter part is where it gets dicey (e.g., kessler types), but i've never once felt that we just refuse to discuss trading picks.
This is why I don’t give away our precious firsts for Kessler. If we do this, then that next All Star who demands to be traded is completely off the table. We have no idea when this will happen. If we miss out on this, it could set us back years until the next big fish wants out.
So we continue to get our a**es kicked when AD is out of the game or god forbid ... injured ... as happens to players around the league all the time .... at the rim and rebounding, and with a gradually declining AD going forward? Joker ain't coming. Luka is probably pipe trying to force his now ballooning butt here as with only 2 picks Cuban would gut us of every last bit of talent and even then other teams would beat it, and why would he want it? Point was made above does any "superstar" pick L.A. to come to .... by themselves .... to save the franchise like LeBron did, knowing he had a shot to get AD here too with Magic's master plan? Don't double team me I don't like it Booker or Ant ... you think they want any part of forcing their way to a gutted team? YMMV of course ... but based on what happened during the lotto years with even mid level good to very good players not giving us the time of day ..... I thinks our chances are better retaining the good players we have in AR, Max, Knecht, AD and adding Kessler (we need a young starting caliber Big Man) and going from there to build around them.
Then you just include Kessler in the trade if you have to. He'll retain the value of the pick(s), he's only 23. If you can somehow get him for 2029 pick, 2027 protection removal, and 2nds or swaps, then next year we would still have 2 first round picks to trade and in 3 years would have 3 frp's. Doubtful a superstar is available in the next year or two anyway.
You guys make valid points for Kessler. I would only offer taking protections off the one Ainge already holds plus a couple seconds. Nobody knows when the next cornerstone will want out. I would rather have that chance available than not.
That is a big point Lane hammers home when trading the firsts comes up. His goal in trading firsts is you trade for someone who can flip later, someone who either represents that value as a player or can easily get you that compensation back in a trade. If you get Kessler, you can definitely flip him at least for an unprotected pick...probably more and that will ring true for the next 7 years with him. When ANT gets sick of Minnesota and you're ready to make that pitch, that's a chip you'll have no problem cashing out.
Pathetic and embarrassing. Is she using Temu? How cheap of an organization can we be? f***ed up on Kobe's statue. f***ing up jersey retirement nights. Can we pay people who have half a clue of what they're doing? That's top down in every facet of this team.
Man, I thought I would never want another ownership team in charge of the Lakers, but Jerry’s Kids have failed miserably.
