Jeanie Buss Discussion: Jeanie Mohr?

wonder why there have been no leaks about good decisions that the rambii have had a hand in. is it because there simply aren't any? or does jeanie not play politics (doubtful)?

i've been (sort of cynically) waiting for a rambis defense piece forever, and there's none to be found.

 

I honestly don’t think Jeanie is going to change her ways regarding who she surrounds herself with. Magic abruptly bailed on her in a very dramatic, public fashion and yet she still seeks his advice.

 

Maybe there hasn’t been a piece like this because there isn’t enough evidence to create one?
I’m going with this.

 

At some point theres going to be too many cooks in the kitchen and the product the team puts out ends up being a half assed collection of ideas.

 

this is my thought, too. like i said, with how all sides use the press (e.g., rob, vogel, lebron, etc.) i doubt jeanie doesn't also do this. so the simplest conclusion is that she can't point to a rambis success story other than something personal or even something professional that has nothing to do with the lakers' on-court product. it's unfortunate that this is how the (soon-to-be-formerly) premier franchise of the nba is run.

i've always said i thought the knicks being such a s***show was bad for basketball. i'm not sure if the league can survive both the lakers and the knicks being junk for an extended period. folks can't get behind the clippers, nets, or even warriors, imo. they don't inspire support or hatred in quite the same way for whatever reason.

 

Right. Too many cooks and honestly, too many personal ties. How many folks involved here can honestly just make an objective decision without factoring in personal connections? Doesn't appear we have anyone who can truly be a voice of dissent outside of LeBron and Klutch (which presents its own set of warts and issues).

 

She's clueless about basketball operations. .

And as I've pointed out, she has so many resources. She could easily invest in the best minds in basketball if she were to put in the research and money.


It isn't that hard. Delegate responsibly, and you'll be fine.

 

i actually wonder if that's it--she's not confident enough to bypass rambis/phil and pick a winner in terms of management. she should hire a firm or something to shield her from her obligations to her pals. feel like if kobe were around, they'd have a private conversation in which he helped her find a way to let rob run things and/or bring in a president of operations that was a real visionary.

i just can't believe a guy who's failed as much as rambis has so much sway. there's just no path to glory that way.

 

Well, now we have the news that Phil has had a lot of input regarding this version of the Lakers. This LeBron era definitely has enough drama to fill an entire series. So many characters, NONE, besides Rob, who have had any success in a Front Office role.
It seems like Jeanie would take advice from a concession stand worker that sold pop corn for two seasons at the Forum over an extremely intelligent basketball mind who has no former Laker ties.
SMH!!!!

 

That is not what was said about Phil's involvement with the team. That he "has had a lot of input regarding this version of the Lakers." No idea where that came from. This version of the Lakers is what it is, Phil has had nothing to do with it. What has been said is that he's been consulted about basketball, not personnel. There's nothing wrong with that. It's better than consulting Magic. Phil's stats as a President of basketball speak for themselves, even Jeanie knows to stay away from that. We don't need his advice on players but he's got a .704 coaching record, the highest in the business period. Most playoff games coached ever. And he always knew how to work with stars, it's worth a shot to consult him on basketball. Of course, he's going to say Triangle, Triangle, Triangle.

 

I don't have a problem with her bouncing things off guys like Phil or even Magic in and of itself.

I just don't think those folks should be standing over the shoulder of the guy she picked to run things. Either she has faith in Rob and his ability to manage the team or she doesn't.

Build a real brain trust with an actual hierarchy. Not just running around asking everyone for their opinion. That is part of what has lead to us fumbling the ball on hiring coaches, making trades etc.

And I've been shouting to the heavens forever for them to hire real search firms to help with staffing on any level from the GM to our trainers but it doesn't seem like that ever happens.

 

Wouldn't matter who they find for us, that person is turning us down. No one on the outside wants to join the unchecked Rambii structure. She's not going to fire her best friend. Our only hope is she eventually sells.

 

wise people seek wise counsel

She's doing what any non expert should do. Kobe freely would seek input from other masters of the craft. It's not a weakness, but a strength.

 

You might be misreading what I wrote. I never said,”He was a part of building out the roster.”
From the quotes that are out on the interwebs, Phil was very interested in “the Westbrook situation.”
That is interest in player personnel.

 

first guy's not wrong that deals that almost happen at the deadline do often happen later, but it would be pretty disappointing to bring in wall for westbrook, even if it doesn't cost a first. i agree with the other guy, though. i think we end up waiving him.

 

So please continue to seek wise counsel, but please improve who you seek wise counsel from

 

Has she already gone through her Rolodex of ex-Lakers whom she considers basketball savvy?
Maybe she should hit up some of the guys in the scouting department for advice(I know, this makes too much sense). They seem to be the only ones recently who have proven they know what they’re doing.

 

Jeanie job is not to feel free to think she knows what to do. She need to resort for others to make the decisions with her getting the final say. Just don't ask someone who trashed your organization years ago on ESPN 1st take. The team has to conform to your best player needs, not wants. Westbrook was a huge failure, we have the answer. Get rid of him and get back to 3 and D players with Lebron & AD, plus another play maker who doesn't have to be elite, but can get off his own shot and score, Monk could be that guy, but as a player off the bench.

 

The front office made great decisions before this year and they won it all. They made a couple crappy ones last year and they are eating it now. Fix the issues this summer and get this thing right. That's all you can do. The players need to take the blame more than the front office.