Head Coach Search: 3rd Times A Charm - Vogel Agrees To Be Lakers Head Coach

The three coaches are qualified candidates and it really really really saddens me that anyone would even bring up their race. I’d bring up stats on black coaches in sports but I can guess how that would go.

Sad. Really sad.

 

What was his problem with Spoelstra after coming from Mike Brown, to the point of walking through him with contact when it got to that point? What was his problem with David Blatt that Ty Lue had to be his guy? Just asking? Was Mike Brown a better coach than where Spoelstra was when he got there? Is Lue a better coach than David Blatt? Have no idea.

 

ETG, I totally agree with you. It didn’t even cross my mind until OX had pointed it out! Those three candidates are the best, most qualified available and who happen to be black.

 

I admire Monty Williams' moxie after his wife passed away. He is devout in his faith and showed more courage and fortitude than I would have in a million years if my wife passed away the way she did. However, this is the LA Lakers. The only coaches to succeed in the last 40 years have been Paul Westhead(By Default), Pat Riley and Phil Jackson. To some degree Mike Dunleavy.

Lakers need are in desperate need of a shift changing coach. Someone that embodies everything from image, X's and O's and communication. If they do not find this guy, they will not succeed. It will be a continuous revolving door of trash and Jeanie is one of the weakest owners in the NBA and a lousy manager.

 

Wow



I’d say our coaching choices had everything to do with that other than race. That, and giving them a roster that fits their style. D’Antoni anyone?

 

in other words, mgmt has hired coaches out of a hat?

 

I'm as down on the FO as anyone, but not every moment can be a new low. We're interviewing qualified applicants. That's positive. And we still don't know the full rob/magic truth. Maybe rob never wanted smash ball?

It's clear we're not cleaning house, so just gotta roll with it. Another year of this and the whole thing might get burned down the way people want.

 

All the things Jeanie did (before Lakers) she was great at it. What's up with the brain farts now? Fire the damn preacher, get some true professionals (can't be hard to persuade people to come and work for us) and be done with this s*** show.

 

shes good at marketing...which is totally different then what shes up against now

 

abeer3, the voice of reason... monty is the better long-term hire, whereas lue would merely be a puppet of the lebron regime...

 

If Williams is running the 76'ers offense, I'm a little nervous about what he'll do here. Ben Simmons (a non shooting guard) is clogging their offense for everyone. We have someone similar (Ball).

With Lue, the Cavs transition defense was always pretty pathetic. If we play at a higher pace, that problem is going to get magnified. That would be my primary concern with him.

 

Check this out; let me know your thoughts, please.

https://thebasketballplaybook.com/x...-pelicans/monty-williams-basketball-playbook/

 

That was incredible! I wanted him before, but after that interview, I definitely want him now. Plus he seems to have a solid background with AD.

 

First off, thanks for sharing. Lots to unpack here.

It's tough to judge how Monty Williams will be as a coach based on his Pelicans tenure. That team went through a lot of s***. CP3 trade, trying to develop Davis, being owned by 3 different people, etc. Injuries were rampant as well. There was never a strong identity and Williams was honestly dealt a bad hand.

Now I recognize you can say the exact same about Luke. However, despite the FO madness, bad roster, and injuries, we all saw Luke did very little to optimize the situation. Running offensive sets that exasperated our already poor spacing, refusing to upgrade his staff, not installing second or third options in his playbook, etc. Now I, nor likely anyone else on this board, didn't watch enough Pelicans games back then to know how well Williams tried to "make the best of what he had."

If you go back to the stats, the Pelicans under Williams weren't a great team, but again, that is to be expected given their roster. He never had a player like LeBron James, either. They did not move the ball much on offense, shot very few 3s (albeit at a high %), and played questionable defense for a supposed defensive-minded coach. Williams preferred to attack a defense via dribble penetration quickly before it got set. His rotations were also the subject of a lot of criticism. Now, this sounds a lot like Walton, to be fair.

I would expect Williams has probably learned a lot during his recent tenures as an assistant coach. Watching Brett Brown's motion-heavy offense hopefully has influenced him. Plus, the game has changed a lot in the past few years. When Williams was a head coach, it was transitioning between more old and new school playstyles. Now, it's almost entirely modern offenses.

It's tough to say what Williams will do as a Laker head coach. I don't know what his staff will look like, nor our roster for that matter. We all hoped Luke would bring in elements of the Warrior offense and defense to the Lakers, but he honestly didn't. So whether Williams uses Spurs and 76'ers stuff for us is a question mark.

Regarding the playbook you posted, it wasn't great, but not bad either. Lot of it was centered around Davis, and if we don't have him next year, I don't know what Williams plans on doing.

In short, Williams is probably the higher risk option and a bigger question mark. He has the potential to be a lot like Walton, but if he really has learned something in recent years, could be exactly what we need. Lue on the other hand, we likely know how he will coach James and what his schemes are. Not exactly a motion heavy offense, but lots of good stuff. However he also has the tendency to over rely on James ISO to create, and not to mention the extremely poor transition defense. I also don't know if there's a recruiting element to this, i.e. does Williams or Lue have a better draw with certain FAs.

If we get Leonard and Davis though, I doubt any of this matters that much. Even a very basic offense will do the trick, and Leonard and Davis are good enough defensive players to figure it out on that end.