Finally..... Manny And Floyd May 2nd .......?

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  1. puffyusaf#2

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    I may be the only person in America (male at least) who isn't going to watch the fight. I'll just look at FB and see people b**** like its a Gameday live chat lol

    On the topic of Mayweather being boring I disagree. He is a tactician in the ring. His attack and counter-attack are masterful. People say he runs because they don't like him but he literally makes guys miss him for an entire fight while landing more blows. At first I really thought Pac would be able to bring it to him but the more and more Roach talks I think it indicates that Pac's camp really don't believe he can. I could be wrong though.

    SOmething I thought of today. You know why Mayweather is smarter than all of us? Win, lose or draw he gets paid. Everyone wants to see him lose. If he loses then its an automatic rematch and ANOTHER 100+ mil payday. Yes a loss could mess his legacy up but people been trying to diminish it forever anyway. In an odd way it works in his favor to actually be beat by Manny especially if Manny wins in a split-decision. cha-ching. All that will be moot cause I think not only does Floyd beat Manny I think he is going for the knockout. don't be surprised to see more powershots by Floyd tonight.
     
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    I want Manny to win because he's the underdog. I always root for the underdog.
     
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    Hyped, go Pacquiao
     
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    As I expected...Mayweather via decision. He controlled the fight by "doing enough to win" as perfectly described by Roy Jones Jr. Neither one was really hurt or took remotely close to a semi-beating. It was a boxing match. Mayweather diffused Pacquiao's early attacks by holding constantly early on, building a lead with accuracy then evading the latter by sliding away. He does so much with so little. Clearly, Mayweather did not want to engage in a slugfest.
     
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    If I paid $100 for that I would be IRATE. Mayweather did what he does best. Love him or hate him, he's one of the all-time greats.
     
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    Huge waste of time and money. This fight would have been "the fight of the century" 5 years ago. Mayweather hugged and ran his way to the win.
     
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    I was disappointed. Now if this happened while Manny was at his peak and Floyd was a little younger then the outcome would have been different. But obviously this was about generating money. I'm sure they all knew Manny wasn't the same fighter after that K.O. Floyd isn't a great boxer he's a smart boxer, sue me.
     
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    Well, this is starting to go viral. Pacquiao was in the red corner. Mayweather was in the blue corner. According to the judge's score card, the red corner / Pacquiao should have been declared the winner.

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    Well, it's not the first time he lost ;)
    Castillo, cough, cough...
     
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    Whoever made this created the red and blue blocks and arrows. On the cards are the fighters names and the scoring underneath their names. Mayweather won all all 3 cards.
     
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    boy the Manny fans are funny.

    A couple things about this fight.

    1) If everyone knew floyd would move (or run depending on who you talk to) then why be mad that he did that? The fact is Manny had floyd against the ropes a lot and just hit arms or missed. Apparently the Pac camp didn't have any secondary strategies.

    2) People who made this good vs evil, God vs Satan etc etc are stupid. Its a fight between two boxers that is it. I get that people dislike Floyd but some of these soapboxes are pretty damn comical. I find it hypocritical to say how much you hate this dude and all he stands for then spend $100 bucks to put 120 million (or more) in his pocket.

    3) Pac did not do much to prove he could handle Floyd at all. Floyd basically dictated the whole fight and really didn't seem in trouble.

    4) I figured it would come out that Manny had some "injury" to excuse his lack of success. Apparently he was injured 2 weeks before the fight. Like I said, Roach was talking too much and this is probably why.

    5) the fight was boring because Floyd didn't have to fight. Why take a risk if you don't have to do it? Especially against a guy (pac) who has knockout power? People want to get mad get mad at the Manny camp for not having a plan B, C or D
     
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    It all came down to the 5" reach. Or 4" according to fight night stats. Floyd's too good a fighter to have that much reach advantage. Manny couldn't get inside except on rare few occasions and punches. For all Floyd's sharpshooting you'd think Manny's face would have shown more of it but neither fighter was marked much. Oh well.
     
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    I really wanted Manny to win, but I agree with this view completely.

    Mayweather fought like he does, and how we expected. This is not a street fight, and there is no obligation for Mayweather to lose his advantages just to be a man or whatever. These new boxing fans would have hated Lennox Lewis who always used his super long jab to win on points or force his opponent to make mistakes in order to break past this advantage. Is it unfair, yes just like 7 footers playing against 6 footers.

    Ali, Jack Johnson, defensive boxers, there is a reason it is called self defense.

    If anybody is running their mouths about Mayweather saying he was a coward and running, then they clearly don't understand how boxing works.

    Sorry if this is a rant, an extremely loooooooooooooooooooong day.
     
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    ^I was going to mention Lewis but for a slightly different reason. He got knocked out by Razor Ruddick (I think thats the last name) because he got careless and went toe to toe instead of using his advantages. Manny has knock out power why would Floyd take unnecessary risk? He has been a brilliant boxer his whole career.
     
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    Did anyone expect a different outcome from this?

    Even if this fight was 3-4 years ago, I think it would have been the same. Floyd is like the Spurs, he may not be the most exciting, but he knows how to win. Simple as that.

    Did anyone also notice that Floyd looked so much bigger than Manny did too?
     
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    I think most people expected an outcome like this but were hoping to see something else. Most of what I read or what I heard was, "Floyd's going to win with his points, but I really want Manny to knock him out" or something along those lines.

    I don't agree with the Spurs sentiment. They aren't boring. They're exciting to watch. The Rockets are boring.
     
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    Alright since you guys insist I'll give my opinion:

    1. Mayweather won the fight, end of story. Probably 95% of the world wanted him to lose, but it wasn't going to happen.

    2. Mayweather is a crafty fighter. He has a game plan and he executes it perfectly. In this fight he knew he had the reach. The first few rounds he measured and hit Pacquiao a good number of times while defending well enough to keep Manny from landing big shots.

    3. He DID run, but that's how he wins fights. Defend, defend, defend, find an opening and land the punch, defend, defend, defend, repeat. It's effective. It's incredibly boring and it doesn't show any heart, but it's effective. He would defend and then hit the corner. When Manny came close, he'd either hug him or duck out. It's great footwork and a little bit of cowardice, but it works. He's the one who goes home with thousands of millions of dollars and hardly any damage. We lose.

    4. I thought the first round was really interesting and the rest of the fight not so much. Why? Because there was a brief moment where Mayweather wanted to go for the early knockout. I saw pride fighting sensibility for just a moment. He wanted to knock out Manny and show the world he was a champ. Then the round ended and his dad talked sense into him and he fought more defensively for more of the fight.

    5. If we're looking for a slugfest, he's not the guy to watch. He's boring. Boxing is a bloated behemoth of corruption and greed that will find a guy to prop up with bad opponents, fixed fights, and bribed judges. The only to stop it: stop paying for fights.

    The good news is that pretty much the entire world was disappointed by that fight. It was a boring defensive showcase just like most of Mayweather's fights. Hopefully that means people stop paying to watch him fight. The only fight I'd pay to watch again is Manny vs. Mayweather 2 and honestly it's just because I like Manny not because the fight would be any different.

    Manny can blame a shoulder injury if he wants, but he wasn't able to get into Mayweather's defense and he was getting shook by Mayweather's reach for about 80% of that fight. Five years ago he may have been able to get in with that speed he had, but not anymore.
     
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    To each there own, as with the way Mayweather boxes. Some people like his defensive style, as it may be technically beautiful to those who enjoy the sport.

    I do like what the Spurs do, but it's not my cup of tea.
     
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    I was listening to ESPN this morning.

    Pacquiao had a torn rotator cuff and will have surgery that will keep him out for 9 to 12 months. He was denied a numbing injection before the fight and Pacquiao is saying Mayweather knew about this injury, which is why he kept "pulling" his right hand/arm.

    Mayweather texted SAS saying that he is willing to give Pacquiao a rematch.

    Lmao at all this. I hope people don't end up spending thousands and thousands of dollars again.
     

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