Finally..... Manny And Floyd May 2nd .......?

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  1. gcclaker

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    Just salesmanship on the part of the networks. Drum up interest...the whole bit. Leaving off the hyperbole, Louis-Schmeling, Leonard-Duran I & II, Hagler-Hearns, The Thrilla In Manila, Rumble In The Jungle...to name a few.

    Oh...and I get a kick out of re-watching Barrera batter Prince Naseem. :cool:
     
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    it felt weird to finally see them on stage...im glad the fight got made...should break records..i hope it doesn't suck
     
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    Well...Roach did not win those awards for no reason. I'm sure he is developing a plan of attack for the bout. It is the opinion of quite a few that Pacquiao's unorthodox style and being a skilled southpaw with punching power could present some problems for Mayweather. He will execute it and will be his usual relentless self.

    Will it be enough? I am not sure given Mayweather's m.o. is to box and win on points. I give him props for being smart in the ring and boxing...not getting into a brawl. He is also adept at solving and countering opponents.

    BTW, that other announcer in the presser had it in for Pacquiao...almost angry about how Mayweather being called out and trying to goad the latter in responding. He also talked of how Mayweather was playing mind games about his statement with losses being in someone's mind [i.e. Pacquiao's]. Maybe...just maybe could he be talking about himself IF it were to happen?

    Oh and I wish I was there so I go into the podium and pop Bieber in the head...
     
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    kinda hard tryin to play mind games with a politician from a 3rd world country...i doubt much rattles the guy


    and agreed on Bieber...as if there weren't enough reasons to hate Floyd




    as far as the fight goes, believe it or not, i'd like to see Manny use his feet and potsot and win the early rounds on activity alone...get Floyd behind and force him to fight in the mid-to-late rounds...activity will be key
     
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    ^You're right...that Pacquiao should hell bent force the issue. The Tim Bradley activity card... I'd say Mayweather would likely clinch and hold to slow him down. I would think Roach is probably studying tapes on how to counter the shoulder roll. I don't think he's ever had a bout where he had to win behind in the cards. Shows how good Mayweather is in controlling the fight.

    No, Pacquiao does not get rattled...just smiles knowing he CAN knock someone's block off. If you watch their meeting in Miami, notice that he wasn't his jovial self? It's all business with him so far... He is though recording his own intro music for the fight...:mm:. Now I wouldn't give him grief for that in person mind you. :giggle:
     
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    whether Manny realizes exactly what task is ahead of him, he's chomping at the bit to get in the ring with this guy



    on paper, Floyd SHOULD win this fight..height, reach, counterpunching...its all there for Floyd but i dunno man...this Manny guy has made a legacy out of winning fights he was supposed to get his butt whooped...as they say in boxing; 'every great fighter has one last great fight in em'...here's hoping Manny saved his for Floyd
     
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    Was kind of surprise how much taller Floyd looked
    In today's dollars and media outlets it should be the all time grossing champ for dollars.
     
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    I was surprised to see how much taller Floyd looked. Seemed to be about 2-3 inches, at least in whatever shoes he was wearing and in the suit. You could see the longer arms and 5" reach. According to the stats below I posted before, Floyd's only 1 inch taller.

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    He definitely looked a lot bigger than Manny.
     
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    OK we have sometimes not seen eye to eye and had some semi-disagreements but have to say ..... I don't know if you are likely jumping the shark here, or know what you're talking about. Or, no offense, maybe just looking for attention? Hey just asking [​IMG] ......no harm no foul, right?

    therealdeal >>>> quote: http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/dai...ke-sure-manny-pacquiao-beats-floyd-mayweather unquote
     
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    What the hell are you talking about? Why I would I be looking for attention? Just because we've disagreed on the Lakers this season doesn't mean I'm on here looking to cause arguments. I've disagreed with just about everyone on this site.

    I agreed with you that Mayweather looked bigger. [​IMG]
     
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    Whoa! No! Not cool to respond without reading the link I put there. "therealdeal" quotes are right there. OK to be fair I guess a smiley was needed. [​IMG]
     
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    at some point these comments in my link above need to be copy / pasted for the discussion of their merits. While just having fun with therealdeal ..... my gut feeling is his comments are probably accurate. Too much money involved to think 100% otherwise.




































    Evander Holyfield: Conspiracy To Ensure Manny Pacquiao Beats Floyd Mayweather

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    Evander Holyfield rarely fails to deliver some interesting opinions on whatever subject he's quizzed about. But in the lead-up to boxing's most recent "Fight of the Century," between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather, Holyfield has some truly interesting insights.

    Although Mayweather is a slight favorite according to the betting lines, some experts, including Mike Tyson, are picking Pacquiao to win the fight. So is Holyfield. But it's not for the reasons you might expect. Yes, maybe Pacquiao is expected to move faster, put up a relentless fight. But Holyfield's reasoning is much simpler.




    "Mayweather won't win, because from what I've seen, boxing doesn't want nobody to get out [of the sport] undefeated," Holyfield told Sports on Earth columnist Terence Moore this week. "They want to keep the money in the sport by doing things to make it happen this way: Somebody beats the man, and then somebody beats the man who beat the man, and then somebody beats the man who beat the man who beat the man who beat the man.

    Don't get Holyfield wrong: He thinks the fight will be close, and maybe come down to a decision. But Mayweather, he declares, will lose, and his perfect record will be ruined.


    "Then it's going to be a matter of whether Mayweather is going to fight again, whether he feels like he has made enough money to say, 'I ain't got to fight,'" Holyfield told Moore.




    Naturally, a loss to Pacquaio sets up a perfect narrative leading into a rematch. Holyfield notes that the $400 million fight could probably inspire a rematch generating another $100 million. "[Boxing executives] set it up that way," he said. "It's because they will not let you out of boxing undefeated, not unless you trick them."

    How, exactly, do you trick the boxing executives?

    "You have to tell them, 'I'm going to fight 10 more times,'" Holyfield said, "And then when you get to five, you quit."
     
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    What's that got to do with me though? Or are you saying that Evander is trying to drum up attention?
     
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    Yeah I'm sorry real ..... that was his nickname ......though maybe spaced or capitalized differently. I had done this same nickname joke with you once before not long ago and you gave me a "like".. I'm patting myself on the back laughing at all the double entendres..... thinking this is all going to be obvious, and like most..... get a kick out of hopefully making people laugh. Sorry for any additional tension as I know it is hard for you with the Tank thread. So, again..... it's 5 o'clock somewhere. [​IMG] [​IMG] Go Lakers in 2015 /16 !!
     
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    Oh wow that went way over my head man. :D:D:D

    Yea I'm not sure why Evander thinks that'll happen. I think it makes more money for boxing if Mayweather remains undefeated. Not to mention Mayweather doesn't take chances, that's why he's undefeated. He's careful, methodical, and he's patient.

    Sounds like Evander has some sour grapes or something.
     
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    I actually would lean toward his observation that a ton more money to be made with the hyped fight story of course, a Manny victory and then the rematch and who knows..... a rubber match? Even if it were legitimate. Ali / Frazier 3rd fight when both well past primes was still Epic. Leonard / Hearns 3rd fight as well. But I literally have forgotten and not going to search on my phone right now ..... who won their 2nd fight?

    At the very least a rematch would still be huge. Unless there is a strong stench for some reason to the outcome of this first fight.
     
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    These guys are kind of old at this point though... How many more fights are we going to get out of them? Pacquiao is 36 years old and Mayweather is 38 years old...

    Fight of the Century- 1971 (Ali- 29 vs. Frazier- 27) [Winner: Frazier Rd. 15 by unanimous decision]
    Ali vs. Frazier 2- 1973 (Ali- 31 vs. Frazier- 29) [Winner: Ali Rd. 12 by unanimous decision]
    Thrilla in Manila- 1975 (Ali- 33 vs. Frazier- 31) [Winner: Ali Rd. 14 by TKO]

    Three more fights puts Mayweather roughly at 43 years old... I don't know if I'll pay for an old man fight. You're right that a Pacquiao win is a better story and thus probably pays more. A Pacquiao win means the second fight makes a lot more money probably... Still though I just don't know if I trust that the fight is preordained like that. I think if Pacquiao sticks with him and lands enough hits they may give it to him on decision, but he'll have to get really lucky.
     
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    FWIW...Manos De Piedra picked Pacquaio. If Pacquiao wins somehow, wonder what Mayweather will do wit that "no rematch" clause in the contract. Yes, he is THAT confident. Given his record, it is understandable.
     

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