Dwyane Wade And Heat Have 'sizable Gap' On Contract Plans

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    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...ns-wade-open-to-leaving-heat-if-it-doesn.html
     
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    Looks like another fun offseason for Riles...
     
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    just reading the direct quotes...that could get ugly. wade's wrong about his abilities, and Riley's kind of a greaseball scumbag. but he's also right. to me, this is a big issue for Miami going forward. if they can't find a happy middle ground with wade, will future big name FAs take note? I still believe this was the lakers' thinking with kobe. they knew damn well he'd handicap them financially for a while, but they thought guys like Anthony davis were watching.
     
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    I could swear Wade just got a nice chunk of change when he re-structured his current contract. I don't know if that was before or after James decided to take his talents to Richfield. Now Wade wants more paper? Riley probably feels that he is being taken for. Yes, it could get ugly...
     
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    Why the heck would they draft Devon Booker? Go after Stanley Johnson. That solves your small forward problem.
     
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    Wow. What a weird turn of events. Years of sacrificing and he finally wants his payday and they're not willing to give it to him. Sure they've got a great point, but it is what it is. This guy single-handedly brought you back to relevance by playing at a high level and recruiting talent to come to Miami. And here you are trying to keep him from making his money?

    He's probably looking across to Kobe's stack and thinking "why can't I have something like that"? I can see both sides, but if I'm Miami I probably let him walk if he really wants to.
     
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    Ok who thinks he goes and ring chases with LeBron? I think he may just be spineless enough.
     
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    Agreed. I guess that's the difference between retiring a Laker and retiring with any other franchise. Free agents can take note of this and know that we'll take care of them; we did it with Kobe, treated Nash great during his tenure here, and even petitioned the league to let X. Henry use our facilities after we cut him even though it's standard NBA protocol to not do that. We go the extra mile with our players. We will be rewarded handsomely for that during free agency these next 2 years...
     
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    I see it from both sides and I don't see either side willing to budge much. It's a shame cause that Heat team was ready for a decent playoff run next year with Hassan, Bosh, Stanley Johnson (?), Wade, and Dragic. The East doesn't need to keep getting weaker, sick of Bron getting pass after pass.

    If you are Wade, where do you try to go? NY with Melo? LA with Kobe? Can Cuban work some magic? Could he convince SA not to spend their money on a big?
     
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    I called it a long time ago that was the Laker plan with that contract to Kobe. It was a long play and I think it'll reap benefits eventually. We're reestablishing ourselves as a Player's Franchise and I like it. Sure it limited us getting some pie in the sky free agents the last couple years, but even in the moment Z-Bo noticed it. I think other players (and maybe just as importantly other agents) will see it and want to be a part of this franchise.
     
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    I am with Wade on this one. He gave up so much, but it seems he is not feeling the love in Miami right now. Although he saved them a ton of money and won rings in the process. He can still be a very useful player for any team, but his health is an issue... I get that. If Miami does not want him, someone will; I'm sure of it. Maybe he needs a change of scenery, and a re-defined role on his new team. He still has a few good years in him, IMO.
     
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    Chicago... Goes home to partner up with Rose in the backcourt.
     
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    Just stay East and give Bron at least marginal trouble please.
     
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    Kobe's crazy contract makes more and more sense. Tells the league, the players and the agents that we take care of our players. Sure it stopped us from getting some FA's the past few seasons but look where we are now. FA's will be glad to see our front office in order and willing to back the cash trucks in. Hopefully this act, (along with how we handled Nash), will pay off soon.
     
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    Again, listening to ESPN Radio and they tried to explain how Wade gave up so much and this isn't a Kobe situation because Kobe never gave up any.

    A. Kobe is worth more to the NBA, his city, and his team in both play and generating income than Wade is.

    B. Wade gave up money so he could play with 2 guys who would help him get rings. Has that opportunity ever been presented to Kobe? Even though I doubt it has, it doesn't matter. That's not in Kobe's DNA. He'd rather do it himself.

    C. California has a state income tax. Florida doesn't. After the oh-so-generous Wade gave up millions, he still was where oh-so-greedy Kobe was.

    D. Why do people begrudge others for making the most they can? The owners never give up money. But when players get all they can, they're viewed as greedy and not a team player. Kobe, more than anyone in the past 19 years, gave EVERYTHING. Played through it all. ALL! Teammates and coaches who threw him under the bus. Rape allegations. Starting next to Smush Freaking Parker. Torn achilles and a million other injuries.
     
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    let's not forget that wade has tried to publicly take credit for the big three, laughing off the idea that riley orchestrated anything. and yes, he's always been crazy jealous of kobe, so playing for 10 million less can't make him super happy.

    this, btw, was another angle to the lakers' overpay tactic: they can afford overpays, and some other teams can't. if kobe's contract stops the trend of "taking less for the benefit of the team" (owner, really), that's a win.
     
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    That's cold. Very cold. I'd bounce as well if that were the case and I gave up money multiple times.

    I'd give him 10-14 million to come to the Lakers, even at his age, if we strike out on others, wouldn't be a bad option.

    Clarkson (845k) / Mo (5) or Rondo / Vet min
    Wade (14) / Ellington (BAE) / Brown (845k)
    Kobe (25) / Young (5.2) / Anderson (1)
    Randle (3.1) / Davis (5) / Kelly (1.7)
    Okafor (4.2) / Black (845k) / D. Johnson (1)

    Total - 67.7

    I don't like Wade, but if the Lakers pulled it off, I'm not complaining.
     
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    just negotiation, I don't see Wade going anywhere
    Riley needs to keep his "Lifer" thing going to convince people of their culture
    They will bridge the gap, but things are more complicated than he'd like for sure. Wade gave up money to get Lebron there, and would like to make it up. However, now he's gimpy, and will never be the centerpiece again due to age and wear and tear. If you pay him based upon expected production for the next three years, he will probably be offended. Bottom line is Riley will probably have to overpay a bit to keep Wade happy after the sacrifices made to make 4 trips to the finals possible.

    if Riley pulls the rug and balks, his reputation will be put into serious question for future players. Just my take.
     
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    there's already a bit of a rep hit when you can't come to an agreement behind closed doors with your lifer. you've never heard any of this with dirk, Duncan, or kobe. he's not as good as those guys, and he's asking for more money than two of them, but the principle is the same, imo. at the very least, you should be able to keep things from getting to the press.
     
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    WOW! That's mighty cheap Mr. Riley, especially after he took a pay cut for the greater good.
     
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