DRAFT TALK Thread: Looking Like Lonzo

That's promising, but Lonzo already has NBA range while Fox struggled with the college 3.

 

That is an expensive 6th man, that is also ball dominant and is one of the few pieces that the Lakers have that other teams will want.

 

Here are the splits btw...

Fox
Nov. 2-15 .133
Dec. 2-13 .154
Jan. 3-13 .231
Feb. 3-12 .250
Mar. 7-16 .438

Ball
Nov. 18-38 .474
Dec. 18-45 .400
Jan. 17-40 .425
Feb. 12-34 .353
Mar. 15-37 .405

Ball makes more 3's than Fox takes. It's safe to say Fox is a poor shooter, and Ball is much further along in that department.

 

My point is, do we really want a player that can't spread the floor, with Ingram's shot still questionable? Russell would be the only perimeter threat, unless we're planning on benching Fox until he's ready.

I feel Ball is ready to start next to Russell from Day one.

 

If Ball turns into Jason Kidd 2.0, the Lakers will be winning titles within 3 years. Ball's defense is my only concern. This is a great 4 min video explaining his deficiencies and strengths on D. I hope he has the work ethic to improve. If he can improve on his on the ball defense just slightly, the Lakers may have the next mega star PG.

http://lakerfilmroom.com/lonzo-ball-scouting-report-defense/

 

Nah he said he was going to work hard on his defense this year. Like last year.

Was only referring to having multiple guys who can handle the ball and like it in their hands a lot thought.

 

This.

We wouldn't be able to compete with teams that are already contending anyways. Let the kids develop, then determine which assets are worth building around and moving for other players.

We're in no rush to get bounced out by the Warriors for at least 2 years.

 

If you watch that highlight video that's been posted, Ball is really good at creating space for his jumper with a step back, in addition to having really good range.

While I do think defenders will figure out this is how he gets shots, since he's so quick off the dribble, it opens up the lane if he just give them a pump fake on the step back.

 

If you really pay attention to Harden, he doesn't go right either, unless he utilizes the step back to create space and give him time for a shot.

Lonzo does this a lot as well if he tries to get shots of the dribble.

 

it's common to be better at pull up jumpers going to the off hand. i know i'm much better pulling up after going left--i feel like it has something to do with the natural gathering motion (guide hand is already on the side of the ball going up), though i'm not sure that's lonzo's issue with his funky a** shot. i think jason terry was notoriously better going to his left for that little midrange jumper.

anyway, my issue with ball's shot is that he always has to bring it way down, and his elbow angle is going to create all sorts of problems moving laterally, probably forever. all these young guys shooting the push shots have that problem (see russell and sometimes even harden), but lonzo's odd release exacerbates it.

the real problem with ball is that he really hasn't shown much in terms of killing on the pick and roll. if i were drilling him pre-draft, it's all we'd do. i'd throw nine kinds of defense at him, see if he can punish folks for going over or under screens. just not a lot of footage there. huge concern in the modern nba for a pg.