DRAFT TALK Thread: Looking Like Lonzo

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  1. trodgers

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    Couple more guys - nearing the end of the first/early second round:

    Ike Anigbogu 5.4 SCOFF, 1.2 PAFF, 3.8 HUFF, 80 BIG
    --This might be the lowest passing efficiency I've ever seen. He handed out one assist per 60 minutes of play, and he had a 1:4 ast/to ratio. He's 19, raw, and has lots of upside.

    Isaiah Hartenstein 5.4 SCOFF, 2.1 PAFF, 3.5 HUFF, 80 BIG
    --He's young, he's playing in Lithuania, so it's hard to tell where he is in terms of competition and skill. He has some promising things going for him, including a pretty good passing efficiency that could translate. Wonder if @KB24 knows more about him?
     
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    A trade down candidate even though he hasn't worked out for us as far as I know.
     
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    Are we all sure that we understand that this data suggests that Ball has a lower chance of being an all-star than De'Aaron Fox and Frank Ntilikina?
     
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    Emplay getting savage.
     
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    And are we also all sure that we understand, as the article says, that this data suggests Lonzo is the best overall prospect?

     
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    No. He's not the most likely to be all-star or starter. He's second most likely. Given that he won't mean jack s*** to us if he's a reserve - and certainly won't be Showtime2 on the bench - he's not at all obviously the best prospect.
     
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    Oh, does anyone believe his FG% is sustainable in the NBA?
     
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    Did Lonzo run over your pet squirrel or something?

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    I think trodgers is just trying to bring balance to the force on Lakersball with KRL being such a strong practitioner of the Ball side.
     
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    Knock it off KRL. Look at the blowback. Similar to what LaVar elicits from rational Lonzo fans like me.

    :Crazyartest:
     
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    41% from 3 is not reasonable as a rookie, so no, it's not. But I'll bet his 3 point fg % will he higher than Jackson and Fox (the 2 most likely drafted after him) next year.
     
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    Thursday cannot come fast enough. I'm ready to climb out of this mediocrity and start living in a world where my favorite team isn't a laughing stock.

    I'm in on Ball, but my gut says Fox is the better player. I can't shake the feeling.

    If the Suns really want Ball that badly, I'm wondering if they'd trade Chriss and #4 for #2. I'd be all for that, but that could be total pipe.
     
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    Stirring the pot ;)
     
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    :Laugh:Ball may be voted by fans but the players won't so no all star for him
     
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    :KobeConfused: .... given that all star selection is fan based for the starters, why is this important to bring up? It's a crap shoot anyway. Not to mention, as the Lakers make their way back to being relevant in the playoff hunt and seasons going forward and putting on the floor entertaining and exciting basketball to watch with the players we've been fortunate and astute to draft, China factors into Lakers popularity with sheer numbers and that may tilt the % more favorably toward our players. Seems to me the overall gist of the chart shows he's up there at the top or at very least among the top 5 players in overall projected NBA talent. The ball doesn't stick with him and the overall cadence of the game should become more consistent and what Luke and Magic most want to see. I throw out Showtime part deux smack for fun. But the encouraged ball movement, his skill levels, size, leadership qualities and IT factor all seem to be what should elevate the overall play of the guys who are already here. And Lonzo can shoot. Everyone's got their weaknesses and he's no different. But the upside sure looks great to me. I have no problem with the devil's advocacy and you are a STUD with the work you put in with all the amazing stats and personal projection work. Props!!!
     
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    Saying Fox over Ball? Perhaps. I just hear how competitive he is. He seems KG/Kobe obsessed. That combined with elite speed just screams franchise cornerstone type. At worst an incredible #3 in a league where you clearly need 3 studs to survive.

    Not saying Ball won't be that. Just saying my gut says Fox will be better.
     
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    Not really draft talk for us, but draft talk in general... imagine flipping Porzingis for picks because Markkanen is out there...
     
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    Randle, Clarkson and the 28th pick for kristaps!
     
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