D'Angelo Russell Discussion: Opted In!

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by The Original 81, Jun 25, 2015.

Page 460 of 732
  1. Khmrp

    Khmrp - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2016
    Messages:
    11,988
    Likes Received:
    13,741
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    There's a very slim chance 28th pick would have cieling like Winslow n by time he's rdy for ext the team would already be capped so wouldn't matter...more likely Mia is the one that says no
     
    Khmrp, Jun 14, 2017
    #9181
    abeer3 likes this.
  2. SFGOLDRUSHER

    SFGOLDRUSHER - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2014
    Messages:
    3,094
    Likes Received:
    2,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Master Optimist.
    Location:
    San Diego
    Offline
    I would do it, it's a gamble..but Winslow could be a good gamble as you possibly wait for PG to come. They might not want Black cause of his salary. It might take 28 and Nance. Or 28,Robinson and Nwaba.

    I'd like to see a small ball line up of

    Ball/Fox
    Russell
    Winslow
    Ingram
    Randle
     
    SFGOLDRUSHER, Jun 14, 2017
    #9182
    Khmrp likes this.
  3. alam1108

    alam1108 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    13,534
    Likes Received:
    37,078
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Laker Land
    Offline
    I'd do it. Pick #10 for a late first and an undrafted player. No way Miami takes that though.
     
    alam1108, Jun 14, 2017
    #9183
    abeer3 likes this.
  4. SFGOLDRUSHER

    SFGOLDRUSHER - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2014
    Messages:
    3,094
    Likes Received:
    2,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Master Optimist.
    Location:
    San Diego
    Offline
    See if we're talking #10 I probably pass... what makes the scenario cool to me is talking giving up 28 or 28 plus some.
     
    SFGOLDRUSHER, Jun 14, 2017
    #9184
  5. alam1108

    alam1108 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    13,534
    Likes Received:
    37,078
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Laker Land
    Offline
    The #10 pick was in reference to Winslow. Miami took him 10th.
     
    alam1108, Jun 14, 2017
    #9185
  6. SFGOLDRUSHER

    SFGOLDRUSHER - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2014
    Messages:
    3,094
    Likes Received:
    2,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Master Optimist.
    Location:
    San Diego
    Offline
    That was based off his potential on a sweet championship run in college.

    His value doesn't hold up to that anymore.
     
    SFGOLDRUSHER, Jun 14, 2017
    #9186
  7. alam1108

    alam1108 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    13,534
    Likes Received:
    37,078
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Laker Land
    Offline
    Looking at 3 mock draft boards from 2015, they had Winslow going 6, 6 and 7.

    He's barely a second year player and he's performed as well as some others drafted around him in 2015. He was starting to trend up this year before injuries ended his season early.
     
    alam1108, Jun 14, 2017
    #9187
  8. trodgers

    trodgers Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2014
    Messages:
    12,016
    Likes Received:
    18,422
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Professor of Humanities
    Location:
    Orlando
    Offline
    "As well as" according to what?

    He has the 28th best FG%, 33rd best 3pt%, and 36th best FT%, and only 42 players from that class have appeared in an NBA game so far.

    He's 21st in Win Shares, 30th in WS/48, 15th in BPM, and 12th in VORP. He was 14th at his position in DRPM last season and 39th this season. That's good, but why am I giving up Tarik Black for that? Black was 32nd and 20th in the last two years.
     
    trodgers, Jun 15, 2017
    #9188
    abeer3 likes this.
  9. alam1108

    alam1108 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    13,534
    Likes Received:
    37,078
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Laker Land
    Offline
    I think Black's production is replaceable if need be while we get a good young wing that could play both sides of the court.
     
    alam1108, Jun 15, 2017
    #9189
    KB24 and trodgers like this.
  10. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    35,628
    Likes Received:
    59,398
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline

    Dayam ...... when the sheriff is in town better come correct around here :Noddingyes:


    :Laugh:
     
    LTLakerFan, Jun 15, 2017
    #9190
    ElginTheGreat, KB24, sirronstuff and 2 others like this.
  11. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    No.
     
    LaVarBallsDad, Jun 15, 2017
    #9191
    therealdeal likes this.
  12. SFGOLDRUSHER

    SFGOLDRUSHER - Lakers Starter -

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2014
    Messages:
    3,094
    Likes Received:
    2,181
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Master Optimist.
    Location:
    San Diego
    Offline
    Care to counter?

    Lol, about time TRodg helps a homie out ;)
     
    SFGOLDRUSHER, Jun 16, 2017
    #9192
    trodgers likes this.
  13. Battle Tested20

    Battle Tested20 Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    9,213
    Likes Received:
    24,866
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Technical Data Analyst
    Location:
    Fair Oaks, CA
    Offline
    based on our scouting departments history and seeing what Winslow has produced so far in his young career I like our changes or you can't really say for sure.
     
    Battle Tested20, Jun 16, 2017
    #9193
    trodgers likes this.
  14. therealdeal

    therealdeal Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    28,475
    Likes Received:
    62,061
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    In MouthDing's recent article he spoke about both D'Angelo and Randle having serious question marks from the Lakers.

    For Russell it was about his professionalism which came and went last year. He was asked to step up and be more mature and take this game more seriously and he wasn't always on that page. The Lakers like him a lot and love his talent, but these are the questions we go into the summer and next season with for Russell. Ding's exact wording was that Luke asked D'Angelo to be less of a "know-it-all and more of a leader to the group".

    I'm eager to see D'Angelo this season. I think he's going to make the progress we all are hoping from him. I'm not as high on him as some, but I still think he can be a very good player.
     
    therealdeal, Jun 19, 2017
    #9194
    sirronstuff, JohnnyComeLately2k6, LTLakerFan and 2 others like this.
  15. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Get his head out his a** and be the player we know he can be...
     
    LaVarBallsDad, Jun 19, 2017
    #9195
    sirronstuff, therealdeal and ElginTheGreat like this.
  16. ElginTheGreat

    ElginTheGreat - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2014
    Messages:
    10,685
    Likes Received:
    29,655
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I'm hoping he pulls it all together next year.
     
    ElginTheGreat, Jun 19, 2017
    #9196
    JohnnyComeLately2k6, therealdeal and LaVarBallsDad like this.
  17. LaVarBallsDad

    LaVarBallsDad - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,172
    Likes Received:
    31,056
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    He is special. No doubt. I hope Ball pushes him, though. Healthy competition.
     
    LaVarBallsDad, Jun 19, 2017
    #9197
    sirronstuff, ElginTheGreat and LTLakerFan like this.
  18. lakerfan2

    lakerfan2 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2014
    Messages:
    5,220
    Likes Received:
    10,105
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Offline
    If anything Ball is going to make Russell more efficient.

    Less of Russ trying to force the issue trying to make a play, and focus on what he does well, that is shoot.

    I felt a lot of D'Angelo's shooting efficiency was directly affected by him always having to think about making a play as the lead guard, taking contested jumpers as one of those options, and fatigue both physically and mentally running the offense.

    With Lonzo, he can focus on getting to his spots and getting open, much like Klay and Curry do together. And since both have above average vision and outside shooting, they can swap roles playing off ball the same way.
     
    lakerfan2, Jun 19, 2017
    #9198
    sirronstuff, JohnnyComeLately2k6, ElginTheGreat and 2 others like this.
  19. KB24

    KB24 Administrator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2014
    Messages:
    3,159
    Likes Received:
    8,286
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Certified Tax Advisor
    Location:
    Germany
    Offline
    Sounds like BS to me. Why would you trade Russell, a number 2 pick, for a #8 or #10? It makes zero sense, especially chances of Luke Kennard or Collins becoming as good as Russell is pretty much zero.

    If we want to get rid of him, then I would trade him to Indy for George. Any other solution would be asinine.
     
    KB24, Jun 19, 2017
    #9199
    thkthebest likes this.
  20. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    11,449
    Likes Received:
    23,353
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Brow-beater
    Location:
    Las Islas Filipinas
    Offline
    BS from Ford the Editor
     
    KareemtheGreat33, Jun 19, 2017
    #9200
    thkthebest and John3:16 like this.
Page 460 of 732

Share This Page