D'Angelo Russell Discussion: All Time Lakers Season 3 Point Shooter

Discussion in 'Lakers Discussion' started by The Original 81, Jun 25, 2015.

  1. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    35,406
    Likes Received:
    59,123
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    Boom! And he gets to still golf with AR. He’s got to be a better defender than Trae Young just by virtue of his height and reach and more in his back pocket PLUS “can” play off ball and shoot all around from deep HERE with this roster where he’s familiar and just shot career best VS what Trae did in Atlanta where He was familiar and NOT any good off ball …. rather preferring to pound the air out of it in his must have high usage fashion.
     
  2. wallangong

    wallangong - Lakers 6th Man -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    1,569
    Likes Received:
    4,746
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I mostly agree, but don’t think giving up the 1st was a big deal. The expectation was we’d have to give up a 1st just to dump Westbrook and that was when we weren’t expecting a package anywhere near DLo & Vando.

    Giving up a 1st to get to the WCF and a decent coach away from at least the 2nd round this year isn’t a bad deal.
     
    lakerjones and abeer3 like this.
  3. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    26,651
    Likes Received:
    72,430
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    yeah, i'm more concerned with the salary slot.

    i wouldn't give him a multi-year deal unless he was going sub-mle or something. he's just not reliable.

    and i'm actually a fan; i just think it would be very hard for him to continue here after what's happened the past year or so.

    i suppose if he said he was happy with a bench role and a team-friendly deal, but if i were him, i wouldn't do that.
     
    FrontOfJersey22 likes this.
  4. Cookie

    Cookie The Dame of Doom Staff Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2015
    Messages:
    4,234
    Likes Received:
    21,154
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline

    But can he be easily traded? Teams didn’t want him at the trade deadline without us giving up assets. I do think he has raised his value somewhat with his great 3 point shooting but did that value take a hit with his no show in the playoffs?
     
    abeer3 and FrontOfJersey22 like this.
  5. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,989
    Likes Received:
    66,192
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    (This is only if we don't do anything major with our backcourt this summer)

    I don't think he's humbled enough to do it, but I'd be intrigued to know his thoughts on being a super sub. Maybe it'd depend on who's getting that nod ahead of him. I know.... he came off the bench when Ham went rogue but I'm talking about a fully bought in commitment and really enjoying the role of coming in to flame throw and being the #1 option in that unit.

    Honestly, I'd rather he and Dinwiddie switch roles because you're not playing Dinwiddie off the court and if your backup gets played off.... they're a backup, no one cares. You'd have to dump Gabe to get enough minutes for DLO but if you're getting him minutes in mid 20s and have a coach who thrives at lineup optimization, it could be interesting.
     
    lakerjones, LTLakerFan and abeer3 like this.
  6. sk2408

    sk2408 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2022
    Messages:
    887
    Likes Received:
    1,988
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    He's just not a playoff player, unfortunately. 19 ppg on 36% shooting in the 2019 playoffs. 12 ppg on 33% shooting in the 2022 playoffs. 13 ppg on 43% in last year's playoffs, 14 ppg on 38% this year. His floor as a player is just too low when he's not making threes at a high clip to rely on him in the playoffs, and he'll always struggle against the increased physicality. Would be a great 6th man, but at his salary slot we probably need to flip him for a more reliable, well-rounded player even if that guy has a lower ceiling.
     
  7. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,989
    Likes Received:
    66,192
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
  8. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    35,406
    Likes Received:
    59,123
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    Was there ANY notice like this anywhere of anything that was done to penalize angry, again unhappy with his role, likes-to-fight Russ for his acts on the floor which initiated hostilities in the Dallas game, him throwing a punch and F-bombing the fans?
     
    Cookie, abeer3 and JSM like this.
  9. FrontOfJersey22

    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2021
    Messages:
    4,737
    Likes Received:
    8,143
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    Our officiating is the worst it’s ever been with its extreme bias towards certain individuals, misuse of the replay system, and massive amount of phantom calls for many “stars.”
    It’s never been perfect, but I’m just asking for something reasonable, not this.
     
    Cookie and LTLakerFan like this.
  10. FrontOfJersey22

    FrontOfJersey22 - Lakers All Star -

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2021
    Messages:
    4,737
    Likes Received:
    8,143
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I have the same feelings towards DLo. I like him, but the Reaves/DLo backcourt just doesn’t work. We HAVE to pair Austin with at least a League Average defender.
    If we can’t work out a S&T, I think it would be a mistake to sign him for a long term deal. Nobody is going to give us a fair deal for him later in the season, so we might as well rip the band aid off now.
     
    abeer3 likes this.
  11. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    26,651
    Likes Received:
    72,430
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    trouble is that dlo's offensive fit with both reaves and the stars is perfect. and finding someone with that quality who can also defend narrows your list to a handful of max players, if even that.
     
    Bryant, LTLakerFan and lakerjones like this.
  12. LTLakerFan

    LTLakerFan - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    35,406
    Likes Received:
    59,123
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    So Cal
    Offline
    Well unless like Supreme Court deliberately slow walking an appeal …. apparently not. Nothing YET comes up. Un f****** real!! Someone from Silver’s office please explain that. He even bumped a ref as well (someone said that saw it)

    https://www.google.com/search?q=Did...cHMC44LjAuMaAHyiI&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp
     
    abeer3 and JSM like this.
  13. sirronstuff

    sirronstuff - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    30,852
    Likes Received:
    75,600
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Your time is running out Ham
    Location:
    Laker Purgatory
    Offline
    Waiting to hear on PatBev
     
  14. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,989
    Likes Received:
    66,192
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline


    Irwin said the simular stuff this week on his pod that DLO is most likely opting out from what he's heard.
     
    lakerjones and abeer3 like this.
  15. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    11,233
    Likes Received:
    23,039
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Brow-beater
    Location:
    Las Islas Filipinas
    Offline
    Bring him back! As if we have a choice lol
     
    lakerjones likes this.
  16. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    26,651
    Likes Received:
    72,430
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    wonder if any S&T options might come up. i was the one saying that i thought he'd opt out, but over time i was questioning it. looks like my initial thought process was right. i just don't see him getting much of a raise on that number given who's got money. even with a s&t.
     
    Cookie, lakerjones and LTLakerFan like this.
  17. showtime24

    showtime24 - Rookie -

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2021
    Messages:
    851
    Likes Received:
    869
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Offline
    If he declines the option, we could use the non tax payer 12.9M MLE and just make sure we stay under the 179M apron. We might be able to get a decent player with it. Players we could potentially get:

    1. Gary Trent Jr. (Klutch client)- He replaces Dlo's shooting, but he is also an upgrade defensively. I would consider him a B level shooting guard, defensively, vs. Dlo is D level.

    2. D'Anthony Melton - A slight downgrade to Dlo in terms of shooting, but still a solid 37% for his career on good volume. Melton may be a B+ level defensive point guard though. Melton fits the mold of the prototypical Lebron James point guard (shooting, defense, low usage), and also would fit well next to Reaves (who tends to play better with the ball in his hands).

    3. Jonas Valinuscius- Idk about clogging the paint any more and investing 12.9M in a minimal shooting center, but at least he is a big body center that could match up with Jokic for 25-30 mpg. Depends on how much of a problem Lakers feel that a need for a big bulky center is.

    Maybe Bridges, but not ideal because of fit and off-court issues. He is a Klutch client though, and could use the Lakers platform for career/PR rehabilitation.
     
    FrontOfJersey22, Cookie and abeer3 like this.
  18. JSM

    JSM - Lakers Legend -

    Top Poster Of Month

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    16,989
    Likes Received:
    66,192
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    I think it's a control thing more importantly than the raise. He was talking about leverage in his exit interview. I think having the power is his priory this summer. Deciding where he goes instead of it being decided for him.
     
    LTLakerFan and abeer3 like this.
  19. abeer3

    abeer3 - Lakers Legend -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    26,651
    Likes Received:
    72,430
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Offline
    that's exactly what i was thinking before. but when i looked at the landscape, i was like...i don't know if you don't just take the money here.

    my argument was that he's made a lot of money and seems to just want to enjoy playing. will he enjoy a bench role? how much will teams spend on him for that role? is there not a compromise that we could work with him to opt-in and trade to a situation he likes? that way he'd keep his bird rights, which could be useful.
     
    Cookie and LTLakerFan like this.
  20. KareemtheGreat33

    KareemtheGreat33 - Lakers MVP -

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2014
    Messages:
    11,233
    Likes Received:
    23,039
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Brow-beater
    Location:
    Las Islas Filipinas
    Offline
    The problem is there isn’t anyone better out there that is available without being fleeced. I still rather have that 18 per game and 41% shooting from 3
     

Share This Page