Coronavirus - What Are The Implications?

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  1. LTLakerFan

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    My focus is just talking about the reality of this virus not being the typical flu that people also die from in too large of numbers. This is different and contagious if you're stupid and a horrible way to die. The "f*** Dr. Fauci always comes attached to this is all a hoax. I've been consistent thinking the pandemic is also being used politically. Without having watched that yet.

    It may just be an additional post about what's going on and not even be tied to what I posted. Just can't watch now.
     
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    @LTLakerFan I wasn't responding to your post.

    Tim Pool posted this video this afternoon. I just dropped it here.
     
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    Summary: Fauci said New York handled things right
    Tim's Take: NY is a mess right now, and they absolutely did not handle things well. Fauci has lost all credibility with his flip flopping as the supposed "expert"
    Nobody got it right, and NY has over a million unemployed right now, people are moving out in record numbers. Tax base is diminished, and they were already struggling. A former governor who hasn't been in office for over a decade is thinking about running again because things are so bad, and phrases like NY is dying were used. Kind of dramatic, but I'm sure facts will come out over time.
     
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    Not too mention Cuomo's decision to stuff Covid-19 patients in nursing homes when he could have sent them to the Javits center the Feds built but he and DeBlasio barely used.
     
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    Yes, absolutely deadly consequences. Nobody is batting 1.000 during something like this, but that was a pretty major faux pas.
     
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    Ugh, that’s like after 9/11 when Sikhs were getting persecuted for being mistaken as Muslim. The problem isn’t that Americans can’t distinguish between the two groups, we shouldn’t be persecuting ANY American citizen just because others from their ethnic/religious background did something bad. The way Biden says this comes across as “Dumb Americans, don’t blame your fellow citizens from South Korea, blame your fellow citizens from China”. Nope. We DO need to hold the responsible Chinese institutions accountable. We do NOT need to attack any American-Chinese or individual Chinese person based on the failures of their government. There is a way to do both without fueling simplistic racism.

    I know that’s not what Biden is suggesting, that’s kind of his whole point that Trump’s messaging creates a general anti-Asian sentiment amongst a portion of his base. But once again the way he tries to attack Trump on this is flawed.

    How has Biden’s camp not realized yet that their best strategy is to keep him off the grid? He’s got a good shot by default just off anti-Trump sentiment. The more he opens his mouth, the more likely he is to sabotage that. “Patronizing view of voters” is an accurate criticism of Biden, he’s gotta stop flaunting that.
     
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    And stop sniffing little girls
     
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    Jeezus. Trump or him.

    :DemarcusRef150:
     
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    this is Trump in public before becoming President

     
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    America pretty much deserves one of the two choices we've narrowed the field down to
     
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    Speaking truth to power.
     
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    Must have been good stuff. Twitter pretends they have no agenda of political leanings, but then this...

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    Twitter and Youtube have been censoring it.

    Here is a bit chute link.

    Remove the brackets to use the link. The swear filter on this board makes it impossible to post the link here.

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    Here's Tim Pool's report on the takedown of the video. Which has been censored on Facebook, Twitter, and Youtube.

     
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    I watched it while it was up. No, it was not good stuff. Preventing your platform from being used to spread misinformation and conspiratorial propaganda is not a political agenda.

    Unfortunately, as is often the case, censoring conspiratorial BS often has the effect of emboldening those who believe in it.

    The doctor in the video is making it out that hydroxychloroquine’s success is being covered up for political reasons, and she knows because her personal treatment of a few hundred people have not resulted in death.

    Her claims of how many COVID patients she’s treated seemed dubious in itself, but it already wasn’t a huge sample size and she’s conflating “no deaths” with “absolute 100% miracle cure”. It’s all politics regarding why the drug is not being used widespread ... yet she falls back on two of the most politicized talking points. “You don’t have to wear masks, we don’t need to keep schools closed, just take hydroxychloroquine”.

    Rejecting masks and social distancing during a pandemic and acting like we can just allow COVID to spread ram partly because hydroxychloroquine can save one is flat out unscientific and a misrepresentation of how effective/safe we know the drug to be.

    If this is some conspiracy to hurt Trump, why has no other nation come out and said “Let’s open everything back up, no masks required, just take hydroxychloruqine if you’re sick and everything will be fine”.

    What’s more likely, all doctors/medical institutions/political organizations around the world are participating in a vast conspiracy to hide a know miracle drug, thereby allowing thousands of people to die all to hurt Trump? Or the drug just hasn’t been proven to be as safe or effective yet? Occam’s razor.

    Then you start looking into Dr. Stella Immanuel. She’s been quiet on Twitter until she starts talking about hydroxychloroquine in April, specifically tagging right wing journalists. This would have been relatively early in the pandemic before Texas became the hotspot it now is. Yet she’d already treated enough patients to know that this drug is a cure?

    Then the drug became less of a talking point and the BLM protests became more of the news cycle. Suddenly she’s tweeting about how we need to stop all the protests because COVID is real and people will start dropping like flies, because she sees patients daily who are scared to go to ER and so she “does her best and sends them home”.

    That doesn’t jive with the idea that hydroxychloroquine is some politically suppressed miracle cure that suggests we can actually fully open things back up and avoid masks.

    Then you also realize that she’s kind of a quack who has all sorts of ridiculous pseudo-science views.



    Fake news? You’re damn right.
     
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    “Quite possibly the most epic and major media scandal ever I have ever seen”. Woof that’s some hyperbole that makes me hesitant to watch the full 20 minutes.

    Funny how a major point of these people you’re citing is how the hydroxychloroquine success is being covered up by the left for political reasons. But this isn’t coming from neutral sources from the medical or scientific community. Rather these people you’re citing Tim Pool and thebradfordfile seem to be railing against everything on the left. The same people telling you HXQ is a miracle cure being covered up by the leftists are also telling you that all the protests are violent Antifa mobs. They’re also telling you that the CIA, DOJ, FBI are all conspiring against Trump. They’re also telling you that Tucker Carlson’s sexual harassment accusations must be a leftist smear.

    Doesn’t sound very apolitical or unbiased. Consider your own echo chambers if you’re going to lob the fake news label on everything else.
     

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