Bronny James Discussion

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  1. LTLakerFan

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    Exactly NO on everything you just said. I said that last post. WTF?
     
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    Jesus these videos are awful - how can anyone take them as evidence of anything. Right off the first play he's not doing anything to Ayton there - he's going for the offensive board. There is nothing wrong with this. Even in the screenshot you see Ayton is open for pull up 5 footer which eh is really good at.

    A few plays later he get mad for staying at the 3 point line and being wide open!

    Bronny may not make it as an NBA player but this is awful analysis.
     
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    So he had 3 TO's last night in 20 minutes forced into action against the "vaunted" Portland athletic wing defenders and such. AR had 8. He was a -2 in 20 minutes against NBA players with 3 assists, 3 rebounds, a steal and a block. Didn't score but only took 2 shots.

    https://www.nba.com/player/1642355/bronny-james
     
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    yeah, i already commented on the last one. i think slick is rightfully confused, because it's the same guy who thinks screaming profanity makes him correct in absolutely dog**** analysis (see, i can do it, too!).

    yeah...no.

    two things can be true--bronny probably isn't worth his roster spot AND he's also not a completely hopeless case as an nba player. his dad's paycut basically covered his salary, which was kind of painfully obvious and made me feel bad for the kid. and i get that others aren't getting the same opportunity he is. if i'm one of those guys, i'm annoyed for sure. but i'm not sure why fans are that riled up about it. worst case we wasted our 14th roster spot placating our declining franchise savior. feel like it's on the low end of stuff we've done (**cough**russ**cough**).

    might as well hope he can deliver on the gpII upside instead of wringing hands about it. i say this as i quietly hoped manon got his minutes last night, lol.
     
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    I think he is hopeless because he has never once demonstrated in the H.S or collegiate level that he was a good basketball player to begin with.

    What does hopeless mean? Because let's be honest, he's likely not getting another NBA contract after his current contract is over with. You and I both know that.

    Look, I'm rooting for the guy. I hope he does well and creates a niche specialty that is needed around the league. His trajectory and player comp was a Marcus Smart/Jrue Holiday-like player. So far, he's shown none of that.

    I do think the roster spot is an issue. I think a guy like Jordan Goodwin could step right in and give you 20 good minutes if needed. I think a guy like Bronny should right now, still be in college developing his game where he would get real minutes, real coaching (for his level of play) and competition that fits his level to where he can eventually develop into a better player. Instead, the NBA and LeBron rushed him into the NBA because it made for a great story to LeBron's legacy. In a way, it was selfish of LeBron to do that because I felt he wanted it more than Bronny really did.

    As it is right now, sorry, nothing about his game is attractive.

    And yes, I see 17 year old's in NYC who have that kind of athleticism... It's nothing to brag about. I'm in my late 20's and when I was in HS attending basketball games, players would do tomahawk dunks already... Come to NYC parks during the summer. You'll find organized pickup games from NYC local hoopers doing all kinds of stuff athletically.

    The litmus test is this: Would Bronny be in the league, known in HS, known in college, or even be remotely considered an NBA player if he wasn't the son of a top 3 GOAT of basketball? You and I know the answer is definitively, NO. He would never have been recruited even in the collegiate level.
     
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    I don't think high school stats are relevant, and we know he was injured in college and recovery from basically a heart attack.

    So let's compare Goodwin and Bronny in the only place we really can - G League.

    Goodwin at 23 and 26:

    21/22 Season - 31 games - 32mins - 16/6/5 on 41/30/78%
    24/25 Season - 14 games - 26 mins - 15/6/3 on 41/30/78%

    I picked a similar aged season and his recent season.

    Bronny at 20:

    24/25 Season - 11 games - 34 mins - 22/5/5.5 on 44/38/82%

    I'm not saying Bronny was better in the G League, but he certainly wasn't worse. In the G League, he showed he can hit the three from the NBA line at a high clip. So far in the NBA he has shown he has the athleticism to stay in front of attackers and I don't see anyone picking on him. It's just offensively he is poor at the moment.

    Regardless - we're talking about our 15th man here - not sure why people hate on the kid so much. Maybe he isn't an NBA player, but also, maybe he could become one by 27, which is the year Goodwin finally broke through. Who are you (or we) to dump on his dreams.
     
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    Good post except I think it would have been much less open for come back with last 5 words changed, considering for comparison you went way past just one more year or two .... to also comparatively "his" prime with 6 more years of work on his game and body ..... to "with such c*** suredness". Which borders on claiming a crystal ball. If Bronny had also just dropped 2 for 2 with one the 3 against Portland, then that stat line I posted makes this kind of career capping, ignoring willingness to work and "heart", presumptuous and illogical. That's all it's going to take. Just the shots to start dropping in the NBA. He's getting to places and getting himself open just fine to hit them.
     

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