Austin Reaves Discussion: How Much Is He Worth?

brother, I usually enjoy your posts, I have nothing against you, and I hope we can move past this small disagreement, but I think you're being a bit fundamentalist in this Reaves subject.

we were discussing Reaves potential trade value if we choose to trade him this year (unlikely) or next year (more likely). I think that's a perfectly legitimate discussion to have.

 

You’re just proving my statement.
Discredt, dismiss and belittle dissenting opinions .Classic echo chamber behavior.I only started using this term when the name calling started.Some poster had a massive crash out on me and for what? Because my opinions are different? Almost everyone here opposes my opinions do you see me crashing out or start name calling
You guys don’t agree with what I say so what and move on.Some of the posters here don’t afford opposing views the same luxury. Start with the name calling and belittling and discrediting that’s why I say echo chamber

 

Have you ever used CraftedNBA metrics? If so what do you think about it?

 

no, but i just checked it out, and it works similarly to the one i posted, just using some different stats.

i just like the LEBRON stat, tbh, and i'm not as familiar with some of the advanced metrics on the crafted site.

the reason i like the LEBRON stats is that they're omnibus and thus quickly digestible, and they try to account for the contextual factors that matter most to me (who are you playing with, who's other team playing at those times, and how's your team doing) in addition to the more traditional statistical impact (pts, rebs, asts, stls, blks, fg%) that say, slick, prefers.

they're not at all perfect, and the biggest flaw, imo, is that really good (or bad) coaching/strategy can impact these quite a bit. the good news is that coaching variance isn't THAT big in the nba, but if you get a doug christie or an erik spoelstra, players can look much worse or much better than they probably are.

 

I like the compare player feature. The overlay grid on offense/defense play making and impact is excellent in my opinion.also the shooting chart is good information.BBI is more comprehensive I believe though

 

you should bring those out sometimes! i probably annoy people with my LEBRON charts, but they help me think differently about some things sometimes.

in the case of reaves, they indicate defensive improvement over time that i think is real and matters and makes it to where i don't actually equate him on that end with guys like young and brunson, much less cam thomas/coby white types.

 

Austin has a high basketball IQ which helps him in anticipation on defense but he just can’t hold his position on guys.He certainly is willing just don’t know if he will be capable.
The video I posted of him looking bad actually ended up a compliment by the host. He said he would bet that AR would figure out the strategy he needs to use against the OKC’s of the NBA.Also said he’s worth every penny he is going to get and brought up Murray,Fox and others as to why

 

i think we just have too many guys who need protection on defense. lebron, luka, and reaves are all solid defenders, but you'd really prefer to have two of them and three guys who are really good on defense and allow you to cover up their weaknesses schematically.

denver's an example, and they really did it with two, tbh: gordon and kcp. IF we're rolling with luka/lebron/reaves next year, ideally, you get the center version of gordon (is that jalen duren?), and a kcp type (this one's trickier right now and why i've liked ellis, who's a cheaper/smaller version).

and then, tbh, you want to stagger your minutes so just two of the three main guys are on the floor for most of the game. the trick there is also that all the bench guys need to be plus defenders, imo.

 

Duren would be in the top of my big board( if there’s even a slight chance that he would consider leaving Detroit). His offensive lapses wouldn’t harm us as much because of Austin, Luka, LeBron and Rui.
I still find it hard to believe that Watson is a serious target because Denver knows it would cut them twice if he signed with us plus the added fact that Rob has yet to gamble on any RFA.
I would be more than happy with adding Duren and Ellis(or an Ellis type of wing).