Anthony Davis Discussion: Only Player On Both All NBA + All Def

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  1. Pioneer10

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    Yep no excuses after the Indiana game.
    Stupid errors: not fouling when your up 3 and let Luke operate, letting 3 point shooters open twice when up 2 at home.

    What hurts is that the Lakers would have had a big edge going into the OT as AD was actually getting going in the 4th - sigh
     
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    I think in AD's case it would benefit him for people to know if he is hurt. He is injured often and now mentally you don't know which AD is going to show up. He is playing but obviously not himself. The problem is he has gone through periods of time before where he just wasn't mentally in to it. So it isn't out of the question that he just isn't motivated. He has kind of made his own bed with his up and down play. Teams adjusted defensively to him and it seems to have taken him completely out of his game offensively. I would like to know if the simple adjustments on defense were enough to take him out or if he is hurt. He doesn't have the mental toughness of most superstars so it seems a legit question.
     
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    you dont have to guess when it comes to AD
     
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    Ouch- but quite fair due to the overwhelming amount of evidence.
     
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    kd/gobert TYPE of return, NOT KD or Gobert
     
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    you're not getting a kd type return because of *waves hands* stuff like this. the gobert return is for teams that wish to lose.
     
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    Funny that I was always of the team "AD is not it for the long term" but now think we have no other choice.
    We just need to build a team that covers him for the 20-30 games he won't play and manage the season so that he's available in the playoff. It can be done and it's how we maximize him. Trading him won't put us in contention for a chip. Keeping him might
     
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    In my mind AD remains the prototypical big man for this era of the modern NBA: he's a big who can rim protect, guard centers 1v1, and can rotate onto guard heavy teams ala GS. And on offense while he doesn't provide a 3 pt shot consistently you have to plan your defense around him.

    So IMO yes he needs help particularly a wing playmaker/scorer which will leave him not being defended by double teams but you have that you basically have a team that can make a playoff run with a mediocre supporting cast.
     
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    My point was that he never told anyone. He did not want the opposition to know anything and certainly not the details. He felt like it gave them the advantage. Now sometimes, we was so obviously injured and still played. Most of the time, I don't think he did talk about it.
     
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    Actually, I doubt this is true. I think you underestimate him. I think most of the time when he under performs, he is playing hurt. I don't think he is one of those guys who doesn't give it his all. I think he gives 100% of what he has available. Try running around with his frame while using bad ankles and legs. It would be hard enough just going to the grocery store and back.
     
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    AD had lapses of passiveness. We’ve seen that at times, like early last season. However I’ve rarely seen signs of that this year. He was on an absolute tear before his injury. He hasn’t been quite the same since especially on the offensive end but he’s been bringing it on D pretty consistently every game. He really shouldn’t have to score 35 a night for us to get wins. This team has enough offensive weapons to carry us when he doesn’t, even without Lebron.

    But it’s up to them to come through. Beasley and Dlo can’t both shoot terribly as starters like they did for about three straight games. If they do it’s up to Ham to substitute. Why is a Walker a constant DNP when he’s an obvious spark plug scorer off the bench? I know he doesn’t play D but Beas doesn’t play a lot of D either. If Beasley is bricking Ham needs to sub in a scoring threat.
     
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    Also report in today that AD will play the second night of the final back to back games of the season against the Clips April 5th. And again confirmed that AD was held out of the Rockets game by our med staff as precautionary.
     
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    We need AD to finish the season strong, and then elevate his game for however long, our playoff run lasts. If he can do that, the goal moving forward, should be to build a playoff contender around AD.

    Lebron is under contract for two more seasons, his availability will determine if we are a Championship favorite or not, for the next two seasons. I'm not moving Anthony Davis in order to build around Lebron. That's a terrible idea
     
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    Hooray! He has decided to show up to work two whole days in a row!
    Bless is heart.
     
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    It wasn’t his decision to miss the Rockets game or any other back to back this year. Did you skip the part where that was dictated by the Lakers medical staff?
     
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    Yeah the idea that AD can put his foot down and insist on playing is contrary to the facts of the modern NBA. The article mentioned how much power the medical teams have in making these decisions.
     
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    After Lebron heard something " pop" I doubt we are taking any chances with AD.
     
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    I didn't think he was one of those guys but it is getting hard to defend him. I'm glad you are in his corner and I am too but mentally he just hasn't shown up for some games.
     
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    I think he does not perform as I would hope he would but I think he is battling pain. It gets in your head, so I will not say that he has not been able to overcome that. I just don't think he is a slacker.
     
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    AD has now really fallen several notches in the basketball world
     

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