Anthony Davis Discussion: Only Player On Both All NBA + All Def

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  1. Khmrp

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    so youre good with just winning it once and bottoming out now?
     
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    lol this place is hilarious. "if you're not first you're last!" except when you're not first, and then being second is great or something.

    we traded for AD to win a ring. we won a ring. i'd rather win all the rings, but...that simply doesn't happen. i don't know how to break the cruel facts of history to people.

    we shall now pay for that experience until our debt to NO is done and we can start thinking about other things.

    meanwhile, NO shall win zero titles and...i guess crow about getting the 7th pick from us, who will probably be a bench player at best for 5 years or something.
     
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    AD is an enigma to me. He seems so dominating and then disappears. Whether we use him right or not if a guy that talented really wanted to do something he could. Does he not want to be here, is he just tired of playing basketball? Does he secretly hate Lebron?...lol. I don't know but something just has him mentally checking out.
     
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    winning once n bottoming out in 3yrs is not acceptable regardless of your perspective, you being AD biggest fan here i can see you constantly defending his play even when hes sub par
     
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    Yep!
     
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    You know some teams have never won a ring? Only 10 teams have won a ring since 2000 - we’ve won 6 of those 22. It’s delusional to think that winning a ring isn’t worth bottoming out.
     
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    shouldn't be acceptable for this franchise, heck even tor showed more fight after winning their chip and kawai leaving
     
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    Per clown
     
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    if he's subpar, you'd better brace yourself for what's coming. but you're not really a fan of the game/team; you're a fan of winning as a concept.

    i'd suggest the bucks for now.
     
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    I think it's cause after half times teams lock in more defensively to win the game. They back the paint and throw multiple defenders at him. When AD has the ball he has to deal with his defender and another defender at the strongside, and another man weakside. 3 defenders there to challenge his shot at the rim. We have no shooters to keep the help defense honest.
     
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    yep. espn running articles about how we didn't get three point shooters for lebron. well, we didn't get them for AD, either. and since lebron has decided he's steph curry without the proficiency...you have our offense.
     
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    right they're clearly "building" something now over winning lol
     
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    Ham might lose him. AD is complaining about playing the 5.
     
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    A good game, but not a great one you need from your Star this shorthanded. We needed a monster performance, we got a good one, stuck on 29 yet again, still hasn’t scored 30 since last February. A Turner/Heild trade lets him play the 4.

    :Kobe Shrug:
     
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    thomas Bryant will save him
     
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    This was one of the issues about not making the Indy trade.
     
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    Translation: that's enough of this cute s***, go get me Turner.
     
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    He and Lebron should have insisted this summer and we wouldn’t have this crappy record to start the season.
     
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    Here, and this is the last time I’m going to mention trading AD, is why trading AD shouldn’t be a blasphemous idea. You have some people, who I will never agree with, saying the AD trade wasn’t worth it, because we suck now. It was worth it though, we got a title, I agree there’s a price to be paid for that and everything after is worth that title (though I’d say it still doesn’t excuse this level of sucking and a roster this bad, was poor choices not just constraints of keeping a title team together), we have that title forever.

    But here’s how you make the trade even MORE worth it. You trade AD for young players and picks like you initially gave up for him. Then we have the title AND we recouped assets to be re-traded for another star later if we decide to try go that route. That’s why I don’t get when people say we won’t get equal value if we trade him. Hell, trading 2019 AD for 2022 AD wouldn’t be equal value, he’s not that guy, he’s not the next 1.a. so why should we expect that? Just get the absolute best you can while you can and start your rebuild. Why he TERRIBLE right now AND also get nothing to show for it later? If we are going to suck anyway, rebuild, it’s true that the pick we are giving the Pelicans is a sunk cost, so just do what’s best for US right now. I do not understand why this idea is crazy to consider, but ok, I’ve said my piece, I’m done.
     
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    i don't really disagree. the only caveat i have is that we have never actually tried to build a team to optimize AD (and i think he's kind of saying that...again). but it's clear we prioritized lebron and his scoring title chase. ok, fine; maybe that's what nets us luka in FA years from now. who knows. i still think our treatment of declining kobe is a big part of why lebron came here and saved us from knicksville.


    if we're 4-16, you'll see me at the front of the "trade everyone" line. and that includes everyone. but i'd definitely NOT move picks just to move russ and move from 11th to 9th.
     
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