Anthony Davis Discussion: Only Player On Both All NBA + All Def

yep and all of these guys championship aspirations goes down the toilet when they're not available

 

That’s not the point. At least you have a shot with them. Durant got some rings, Klay Thompson too, Kahwi multiple, Anthony Davis helped win one that LeBron wouldn’t have won on his own with that team, even Chris Paul finally came closer last year. Maybe Embiid one year. Lesser players as your 1 or 2 it’s not close to the same chance and they can get injured the same way from the s*** happens variety and not be available just as easily.

 

I just don’t understand why some can’t admit that “injury prone” is a real thing- regardless of the reasons. It’s just the flip side to the “iron man” label and the fact that there have been players who have higher pain tolerances.

 

We need to get this AD back

 

And if they happen to be really talented championship material players, what players in trade do you move them for and still have that kind of shot? That there’s some magical guarantee can’t get the s*** happens injuries too? All those players above are prone to not being on the floor as they’ve racked up injuries in their careers but with luck may get you a ring, as most of them have. As far as the pain thing we were spoiled to no end by Kobe. But he was literally one of a kind in that regard in the history of the league, with what he played through.

 

this was my point. giannis, jokic, and doncic are the full list of top tier caliber players that you don't expect will be hurt for substantial stretches of each season. i would have said harden as recently as last year, but he appears to be breaking down now, too.

nobody actually wants to downgrade from any of the players listed. that's just feelings getting the best of people.

hell, i just read in another thread about how the clippers are going to be awesome next year with their two top guns back. and i'm like...

 

Well that was me that said it because of the rest of the deep, talented, large wings heavy roster built around those two injury prone superstars, with the usual caveat mentioned …. luck and health. Built with Ballmer’s billions not even blinking at re-maxing Leonard knowing he wouldn’t play this entire year likely and higher in luxury tax than all but one or maybe two teams.

 

yeah, there's nothing wrong with that prediction, imo. it's just out of step with the forum's general view on AD. i noticed nobody jumped on you about how there's no way leonard and george will ever be healthy enough to win and the clippers should trade them both while they can.

 

Remember when Kobe would turn an ankle and be back the next game?

That was a blessing and a curse that will never break because we will never see another player on our team that was made of mental steel.

 

Or rupture a finger tendon in his shooting hand and decide not to have the surgery and lose too much of the season and the Olympic trials. If I recall never did have it repaired ..... was the pinkie.

https://www.upi.com/Sports_News/2008/02/14/Bryant-out-with-ligament-tear/47931203043750/

 

dirk nowitzki played through some pretty vicious ankle sprains, too.

again, my point has never been that AD is a tough guy iron man. just that he's still a lot better player than we're likely to have on the roster for the next decade. is that sad? maybe. but try being a fan of almost any other nba team.

 

I remember a graphic in a game where he had 9 injuries and was playing
Wade had a similar one too

Or when Kobe hurt his right shoulder(?) and played with the leftie throughout


It's true he created a standard no one can leave for. And we are in an era of softies. Harden missed a game this year with neck soreness. Wood missed a game this year with a migraine. But still, AD gets injured just by getting out of bed

 

Let’s also be honest here and admit that he was really banged up before the pre Bubble break as well.

 

my pt was value as in on the floor, all those injury prone types have no value when theyre not on the floor...all those guys you mention having rings were available, this AD after yr 1 has not and i don't get where this "optimism" comes from thinking AD is somehow will be less injured as year goes on

 

ever had a migraine? think you'd play basketball with it? think kobe would?

this has had me wondering. fans seem totally willing to forgive full missed seasons but get mad at 1/4 or 1/2 seasons missed. i don't understand the logic. and it's not like you should expect thompson not to get hurt again. his injuries were major, non-contact injuries. at any moment, he pushes off wrong again, and he's gone another full year. hell, they're still resting him in games to ramp back up. i don't see how AD is more injury prone than klay thompson, kawhi leonard, paul george, joel embiid, chris paul, etc. i'd actually argue that of that group, i'd be more comfortable expecting him to play more games in the next couple of years.

AD has a ring when available. i'm not sure i understand this. or is it more "bubble doesn't count" stuff?

anyway, i'm begging the lakers simply not to bring back AD this year. i don't care if he's healthy and wants to prove things to the world's toughest fanbase. it's not worth having him miss half the summer because he didn't rehab fully and come back next year out of shape and ready to get hurt again. everything we do for the rest of the year needs to be about next year, not this one.

 

I'd also like AD to just focus on next year. Gaining weight over the summer was a fail IMO and he has been banged up for a few seasons now.

Just focus on getting in shape, mobility, etc etc etc. Bring in his own specialists if he needs to. It would be nice to see someone in the franchise seek out the best and brightest to help them work on something.

Beyond that, I think the constantly harping on his health compared to other players is unfair but kinda is what it is at this point. The nicknames are ridiculous to me compared to other stars that have missed long stretched for injuries but I hope AD and the team ignore that and just focus on the future. "Street clothes," "Mr Glass," and whatever else have stuck now.

He needs to come back with a monster year next year. There will still be critics but he can quiet them down if he plays well.

 

it's just not super accurate is all. and i agree that the weight gain was bad and that he (and we) should be looking at new trainers/methods.