Anthony Davis Discussion: Only Player On Both All NBA + All Def

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  1. JSM

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    I really do think this enters into the NOP's thought process.
     
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    Can someone bring me up to speed on this whole Saints thing? I know they lost to Rams. The lady owns both Saints and Pelicans, right?
    So what's the deal here?
     
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    it absolutely does and its incredibly ******* stupid. you can see it in the way their fans have been talking about now wanting to help out LA at any cost

    there's no doubt the pels ownership is taking this into consideration as to not upset any of the fanbase they have left because as we all know, the saints run that city

    not to mention that mickey loomis (saints GM) is also the president of bball operations for the pelicans for some reason. that guy obviously has a vendetta against LA right now
     
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    Sort of sick of the Lakers being cuffed by wish-list players. Been going on for many years now. Holding out for a super-star then making "flexibility" moves. Granted, we did get Bron - the ultimate FA in the NBA, perhaps ever. But so many GMs and the media don't want us to get better. The media coverage of PG, Leonard, LA, and others in recent years doesn't help us. Spite decisions are made to keep players from us.

    Point being, perhaps we forget Davis, knowing he is not being traded here before the deadline. Go after Kemba (bye Zo and filler) and Beal (bye BI, filler and pick) and be happy even without Davis, and without hoping for Klay, Kawhi, or Durant. Keeping Zu and Kuz in the process and still having flexibility. Filler would be KCP, Lance, and Beas, etc. Then worry about Davis next deadline or next summer, and not waste this season. If we get the 7th seed, we can beat Denver, then OKC, and who knows (GS??)...with this line-up:

    Kemba, Rondo
    Beal, Hart, Svi
    Bron, ?? (Kuz)
    Kuz, Melo, Bogner
    Mcgee, Zu, Chandler

    A small-ball playoff lineup of Kemba, Rondo, Beal, Kuz, and Bron. OK by me.

    I just hope we are not ignoring all plan-Bs over these next few days.
     
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    I do like that team. But as long as AD is potentially available in 2020, we will continue to punt in Free agency unless we get Kawhi or KD. Thing is, we potentially don't have to give up all that. Kemba is unrestricted this summer. We could potentially trade Hart and Ingram for Beal, then sign Kemba. Use Zo to get someone else.
     
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    Wouldn't that be something that really sucked? If it didn't work well here in Lakersland with our top heavy team ultimately planned and that our whole prime young roster just jells and starts killing it within another year or two. In Pelicans uniforms?
     
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    I've accepted that a deal won't happen with the Pelicans...the league doesn't want it to happen...and Pelicans are going to be stupid and gamble on the C Bags giving them everyything (newsflash: they won't)
     
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    Yep. I hope C Bags screw them hard... and then AD screws the C Bags. Kyrie can screw them as well while we're at it.
     
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    I hear ya, SG. But if we can get Kemba now, for the next 30 games, and trade Zo for him, with the Hornets waiving the physical, I would do it. Kemba won't leave Bron and Beal this summer if we offer money to him. His game is perfect for both of those players, as is Beal's and Kuzma's to play with Bron and Kemba.
     
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    This is where I disagree. I think the C Bags will give them Tatum, Rozier, Smart and whoever else is needed to match salaries. Where the Pelicans will get screwed is those players aren't the treasure trove the media is making them out to be. They played over their heads last season. People are still going off of the playoffs last year.
     
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    I actually think that Kemba, Rondo, Beal, and Kuz with Bron is better than Bron and Davis and filler.

    Obviously, Bron, Klay, and Davis would be out of this world. But I like Beal almost as much as Klay, with Kemba's, Rondo's, and Bron's play making especially.

    Anywho. Point is, let's move off Davis and make moves to face the Denver Nuggets in the first round of the playoffs this year.
     
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    Sorry for spamming, but the trade thread doesn't get as much visibility. Just an idea...

    With Detroit really not going anywhere with Blake Griffin, that was a massive flop of a trade for them, maybe they'd want to part ways and go younger? He's still a star, someone that would soften the blow for the Pels in replacing AD with in terms of getting a star back, which in turn, could lessen what the Lakers might need to give up.

    LA In: AD
    NOLA In: Griffin, Ingram, Bonga, Laker 2019 1st.
    DET In: Kuz, Randle, KCP

    I think this works out for everybody. Lakers get AD. New Orleans won't suffer a massive loss with Griffin, meanwhile still getting a high ceiling prospect in Ingram, and Detroit gets a hometown stud in Kuz, a replacement physical PF in Randle, and an expiring KCP who's played in Detroit before, so he'll probably be fine for half a season.

    Checks out in trade machine: http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ybzqyzg7
     
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    That 3-way involving Griffin would be amazing. But NOLA would want Zo too.
     
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    AND Zo would be giving them too much. The only other option is if we swap out Ingram for Lonzo, which, I mean we'd all do anyways, but seeing Ingram go would be an easier pill to swallow for the Laker brass imo.
     
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    Yeah.. This whole shared Ownership between the Pels and the Saints does not help the Lakers cause here..
    Pels Ownership definitely has to take into account potential backlash from their fanbase.
    The City of New Orleans basically feels that they were cheated by the NFL in favor of Larger Market Teams.
    Like they seriously are going full Conspiracy Theory & have even filed a lawsuit against the NFL.
    I've browsed the Saints Message Boards & it's some of the craziest isHT I've ever seen.

    I wish this wasn't a factor, but seeing that the Teams have the same Ownership & GM... I fully expect this to work against the Lakers.
     
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    Trying to be objective here and I am a Rams fan... Saints got the short end of a call in the NFC c-ship game, league and officials involved, heck even the Rams DB basically admitted it was a blown call, likely cost NOS the game.
    Pistons owner and Griffin have a major bromance going, Blake isnt getting traded. Pistons have no hope of signing any major FAs, so they gotta trade for them.
     
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    I mean, the Clippers pretty much rolled out the red carpet for Griffin, had a whole video dedicated to him being "the best Clipper ever", then traded him the same season. There really is no loyalty.

    The Pistons are sitting in 9th with an aging Griffin and no real spark to their team. I think if they bring in a player like Kuz, they could create a little buzz with him, Drummond and Randle. Not only do they get younger, they shed Griffin's massive contract.
     
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    Has anyone seen Griffin lately? Doesn't seem to be happy there or with his teammates. I doubt he's too attached to Detroit.
     
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    Did you guys actually read that article or just go off the twitter headline? There’s nothing in there about the owner not wanting to trade Davis because NO fans are already upset about the Saints. It says that Davis reportedly wants out in part because the ownerships prioritizes the Saints over the Pelicans and that they are football people, not really NBA people.

     

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