Anthony Davis Discussion: Only Player On Both All NBA + All Def

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  1. JohnnyComeLately2k6

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    They don't know the implications of their actions.

    Game 2. The Lakers had 17 FTAs against Miami's 34. Miami still lost.
    Impact: This will justify FTA disparity between teams, because it doesn't necessarily decide the outcome of games.

    Game 3. The suspect (at least to myself, anyways) timing of AD's fouls, especially his 4th which came early in the 3rd quarter. Miami won.
    Impact: This gives the illusion that the Heat are able to win without Adebayo, Dragic.

    This is the main reason why I don't watch any basketball games live anymore--the human factor that is the officiating, that is prone to error, is a variable that can be controlled, and cannot be undone even in the most extreme circumstances (like a restart).
     
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    Vogel has to find a way to get AD more involved. There shouldn't be any reason he looked this lacking offensively with the size advantage he has. If they are denying the entry pass then Lakers have to find a different way. But defensively, this was one of AD's best defensive playoffs game. Huge blocks and was great at denying Butler around the rim all game. But man, you can't go 16-20 in game 2 and then look unable to be effective offensively the next two games.
     
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    We had 2 FTs near the end of the 3rd, something like that? Yeah... f*** the NBA.
     
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    AD needs to stop falling like that, he is starting to irritate me with that. So nerve-wracking.
     
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    To be fair, one of those was Jimmy Bum pushing AC into AD.
     
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    Was there anyone he didn't guard tonight? Some next level D on every assignment he drew. Finished with a game high +17.

    Put the nail in the coffin with that 3 from 'Do

    Offensively he was not nearly assertive or aggressive enough, but at least he picked it up late. Willing to give him a pass because of elite D.
     
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    We need him to be more aggressive next game.
     
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    Killer trey and key block on He's In Trouble.
     
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    Ludabrow was dominant defensively and then that dagger 3! He'll yeah!
     
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    man, his ability to switch onto smaller guys and keep them contained is just huge. changes games all the time. teams are expecting to get better looks than those when they get a big to switch out like that. nope.
     
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    Yes, but what can AD do? He's relying on Bron/Rondo/AC to make the correct decision. If the Heat are denying AD the ball, Vogel has to come up with something. I think running the offense through AD AWAY from the post is something the Lakers will have to look at. I have enough confidence that AD will knock down enough jumpers to get them out of his way. Set LeBron down low to catch any cutters and to also dominate their interior. If AD can't get the ball, LeBron damn sure can. But I can't blame AD. This was a fantastic game defensively. He was a +17 on the court I believe. +17 or +11.
     
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    One thing I LOOOOOOOOVE about AD is that his D is always there. Always, regardless of the offense
     
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    They have to do something collectively. You can't give teams a blueprint what to do against one of the top players in the NBA.
     
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    To me it really seems like AD is saving his energy for defense. There are possessions where its clear the play isn't run for him, he runs to the corner as the rest of the team runs an action. I can't tell if this is for intentional rest, or not. ADs number is flat out not called on offense for many possessions. If we're worried about aggression, my answer to that is AD's energy is always up on defense. Watching his offense as a fan is a little harder for figure out.
     
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    AD needs Roy Hibbert as a player development coach, they can bond over stumbles to the ground. Both his parents must have been European football players (soccer).

    JK, great 3 and some clutch defense (4 blocks). Worth all our draft picks and more. He was getting worked by the Heat physically too. All Derek Caracter building of course.
     
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    He should be able to do both. No one can stop him.
     
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    Liked for the Caracter reference, get it, Caracter reference.

    I'll just go now.
     
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    This game showed the real Defensive Player of The Year. Those voting dirty screws...!
     
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    Ludabrow more or less said he saved all of his energy for the defensive end. He guarded everybody. Such a big effort.
     
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    I think the games are proving that he can't do both. Agreed, no one can stop him, but AD's energy is not an infinite resource. AD including everyone else looks spent at the end of these games.

    If he could do more, I'm sure he would, and the game wouldn't be as close. But after watching 4 games, I don't think that's the reality.
     

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