Anthony Davis Discussion: Only Player On Both All NBA + All Def

lol, sentient, of all people, attacking sensibility.

thanks for the ingram update in the AD thread, though. everybody needs it each day.

 

Trying to figure out how to retort to

"AD hurt his butt crapping bigger than BI. discuss."

without saying anything about BI.

 

This guy Scented Meat, he's ok in my book.

Welcome to the dysfunctional fam

 

it's clear you missed the purpose there.

anyway, AD is probably the nba's best two-way player this year, as he has been for many, many years. but he's only 26. isn't that GREAT?

i think it's great.

 

1a/1b with this guy from Greece

 

yeah, he's pretty good, too. if i were milwaukee, i wouldn't trade him.

 

AD to have round the clock glute massage before the game on Friday

for example of proper technique, please..

Spoiler: CLICK HERE :0

 

Kobe ain’t trying to hear this. If it ain’t broke, get out there.

After AD signs his $200M+ contract, I’m expecting mamba toughness going forward. No more 10 injury reports a year.

 

as long as there isn't obvious risk of greater injury by playing on it, i'm not against him playing. any risk at all, though, and i want him sitting. i think a bruised glute can be managed (though you probably lose some explosiveness, i don't think you risk tearing it by playing--not an orthopedist, though). but if he's got a sore knee or sprains an ankle, or had this been a sacral bruise--i'd be calling for rest and lots of it.

 

i think the clips would do it just to keep the lakers weak, but i think dallas would only do it if they thought it would help them contend this year. i think they've seen enough to know that this isn't their year for that, hence their lukewarm interest in iggy.

that said, if it took zero assets and it blocked his move to la, i'm sure they'd do it.

 

I wonder if I looked at the history of people's posts whether I'd read comments like Ingram is a bust... slowly rising to Ingram will be a decent rotation player nothing more, then Ingram will be a borderline starter... then Ingram will be a starter on a bad team... to Ingram will never average 20PPG... to Ingram only scores because he's on a bad team... to Ingram maybe makes an all star game... and now Ingram is a fringe all star player.

If people are so confident in the quality of the trade... why the need to say "fringe" Why not say that he will be an all star player? Doesn't that seem to be the natural arc considering his consistent progression from his horrible rookie year.

All stars scoring at 22 years old

KD 27.7 PPG
LBJ 27.3 PPG
Ingram 25.3 PPG
AD 24.4 PPG
Giannis 22.9 PPG
Russ 21.9 PPG
Dirk 21.8 PPG
Kyrie 21.7 PPG
KAT 21.3 PPG
DLo 21.1 PPG
Blake 20.7 PPG
Embiid 20.2 PPG
Dame 19.0 PPG
Curry 18.6 PPG
Jokic 18.5 PPG
Aldridge 17.8 PPG
Kemba 17.7 PPG
PG 17.4 PPG
Beal 17.4 PPG
Simmons 16.9 PPG
Harden 16.8 PPG
Klay 16.6 PPG
Wade 16.2 PPG
Vucevic 13.1 PPG
Kawhi 12.8 PPG
Khris 12.1 PPG
Lowry 7.6 PPG

Ingram ranked 3rd of all the all stars last season in scoring at 22. How the hell is this fringe? What scientist would extrapolate that the 3rd highest scorer at 22 years old is a fringe all star. Even DLo who was a last minute addition ranks 9th among the list.

We drafted the 3rd and 9th highest scorers at 22... yet somehow people have determined that our draftees are fringe all stars who will never amount to anything.

Vucevic is an example of a "fringe" all star... Maybe Lowry who didn't average 20 points until he was 29 years old... but Ingram?

Come on guys... If you really believed the trade was so brilliant... why not call Ingram what he is... a future all star without the qualification.

If anything, unless Ingram regresses... at this point he's on a fringe hall of fame trajectory.

Some all time great players and scorers at 22

Wilt 37.6 (Didn't play until 23)
Dr. J 31.9 (ABA competition)
Oscar 30.5
Shaq 29.3
Melo 28.9
Kareem 28.8
Kobe 28.5
Elvin Hayes 28.4
Jordan 28.2 (he was hurt at 22 so I used his 21)
KD 27.7
LBJ 27.3
Ingram 25.3
Baylor 24.9 (Didn't play until 24)
Admiral 24.3 (Didn't play until 24)
Iverson 22.0
Dirk 21.8
Duncan 21.7 (All around great game)
Bird 21.3
KG 20.8 (Elite defender)
Hakeem 20.6 (Elite defender)
Barkley 20.0
Ewing 20.0
Pierce 19.5
Ray Allen 19.5
Moses 19.4
Magic 18.6 PPG 9.5 APG
Vince 18.3
Logo 17.6
Nique 17.5
Dantley 17.3
Drexler 17.2
Wade 16.2
Mailman 14.9
Bill Russell 14.7 PPG 19.6 RPG (elite defender)
Havlicek 14.3
Reggie 10.0
Parish 9.1
Pippen 7.9 PPG (elite defender)
Stockton 5.6
Alex English 5.2

Even if I put a list of all time top scorers or all time players... Ingram still is in the top half of scorers at his age.

I'm not saying he'll ever be hall of fame quality... long way to go before he comes close but just in the trajectory of stats... that is where he trends.

And yes I understand that being great is much more than scoring... I'm using it just because almost all the all time scorers happen to be in the hall of fame as well.

Yet "fringe" all star? It doesn't make any sense. No need to denigrate BI's progression to prove one's point about the trade.

 

It's getting ridiculous...
Vash 2.0

 

Doesn’t this belong in the Kuzma thread tho?

udleyshrug:

 

So your whole argument is based on the world "fringe"?

Really?