ALL Black Lives Matter

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  1. Lakeshow85

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    Yeah this was one of the concepts I learned in psychology and it’s very interesting indeed.
     
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    You made excellent points, but you are right and very wise. It’s healthy not to get too involved in these things. I try my best to follow your way, but sometimes it pulls you in. Not so much on these boards but on others and especially social media. Kudos brother.
     
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    besides, it's all fake new anyways...


    ***sits back***

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    The organization or whatever it is called BLM is very inconsistent and filled with irregularities. The cause Black Lives Matter has substance, the organization does not.
     
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    Any organization without a clear maintained focus will experience this same thing. Unfortunately this is a wide ranging issue with so many things that need to be addressed that it’s easy to see how the message isn’t clear.

    they need a strong respected leader to step to the front and provide direction, but it doesn’t seem to be happening
     
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    This is my sentiment 100%.
     
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    The organization wants to destroy the patriarchal society, wait what? no fathers=antifa children
     
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    Exactly. It seems like the organization is anti-man from my perspective.
     
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    I fully support Black Lives Matter as a saying but people who think BLM, the organization, is truly trying to help black people are just ignorant.

    BLM is a Marxist political group that fools people into supporting their cause. Their leaders stated that they were professional Marxists. Isn't it funny that they are NEVER around when a black child is killed by another black? The only outrage they demonstrate is when a white police officer kills a black man when statistics show that more unarmed white people have been killed by police officers and no one knows their name.

    I love me some LeBron but this dude is the biggest sell-out in the media today. Remember when he bashed Drew Brees for saying he wants to honor the flag and anthem because he has family members who have served in the military? Yet, when Stephen Jackson and other black voices preached anti-semitic statements, LeBron James seemingly forgot how to post on Instagram.

    I can never support an 'organization' that is filled with lies, hatred, and ignorant people.
     
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    Over a billion dollars has been donated to BLM, and it's nearly all been funneled to Democratic candidates in different races. Biggest con ever making people think you actually care about them. I can't believe the media isn't covering it. But that fits with the agenda nicely doesn't it? If the Republicans were fleecing a set of the population, you can be sure it would be front and center every single broadcast.

    Sharpton and Jackson need to call out this stuff. it's an embarrassment they are just lying down and taking it. It seems to me they know it's happening and have given their blessing. If they think the best use of that money is to pay for political office campaigns they may lose and have no tangible benefit from, that's just shameful.

    it's flat out fraud and foolish

    Help me understand an opposing view point. I just don't get it.
     
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    For decades black people have tried to fight for a political party, hoping that this would be the thing to 1) give us an identity and 2) have us be accepted by the “white people”. We tried it with the Black Panther Party. We are trying it with the Congressional Black Caucus, where you get delightful people like Maxine Waters, Kamala Harris, and Corey Booker; so it makes sense that BLM (a supposedly black focused group) is fighting for political power in this “white man’s world”. Recent history has shown that Politics has not helped to change the situation of black people, especially if we have these jokes supposedly leading us like Sharpton and Jackson. BLM is just another fraudulent political organization that means absolutely nothing and gets nothing done.

    Oh wait you said help me understand an opposing viewpoint



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    No one will bother to give you an opposing viewpoint. They will just say that questioning the organization means you are racists which shuts the conversation down. It's what the left has done for years. If you are on the right or try to take a balanced approach to something extremely complex like racism, you are called racist. They choose what the talking point is and deviating from that point means you are racist. It's like if a house is on fire and some guy has a hose that's spraying gasoline onto the fire.
    "We have to put out the fire."
    "What about the joker spraying gasoline? Shouldn't we try to do something about that too?"
    "No. We have to focus all our attention on the fire."
    "But maybe it would help if we stopped that guy?"
    "NO! You just want the house to burn, don't you?"
     
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    Watch the parallelism of BLM/Antifa and China's Cultural Revolution.
     
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    “I didn’t leave the Democratic party, the Democratic Party left me.”

    ― Ronald Reagan
     
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    This is unfortunate how this is devolving





    the comments are entertaining though
     
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    Blacks have not been served any better by the Democrats than by the Republicans and they have long needed to go their own way. But the two party system does not help at all with that. Every time blacks try to make their own path, their cause gets corrupted by white liberals. For instance, some planks in the official BLM platform have nothing to do with the black cause while other planks are inimical to blacks. For instance, donations to BLM the organization go to Act Blue which is the fund raising arm of the DNC so donors to BLM have been funding Democrat candidates across the board. What a scam that is! Corporations knew this, it was an easy way to virtue signal their support for BLM while not actually supporting it. For instance, Antifa has essentially co-opted BLM in many jurisdictions. E.g., Portland.

    Sharpton and Jackson sold out to the white liberals long ago. In exchange for keeping their positions of power and prominence in the black environment, they have one job: to keep black voters firmly lined up behind the Democrat Party at all levels and one mission: to do whatever they have to do, to say whatever they have to say to stoke the divisions in ways that accomplish that objective without really helping blacks with their issues. Because if they actually solved most black issues, their positions wouldn't be needed anymore, would they? For instance, they say little to nothing about fatherless families because to talk about that would be to allow the discussion of the progressive anti-family formation policies that led to that outcome.

    Speaking of fatherless families, I strongly believe this is the single biggest problem in the black communities. The pathologies of fatherless children are well documented across all races yet we do nothing to change the legal, political and financial environment which prioritizes keeping fathers out of the house. In 1960, the black out-of-wedlock birth rate was not far behind that of whites. But in subsequent decades, that percentage ballooned to the outsize numbers we see today. I won't go there, but honestly ask yourself what happened in the 1960's that led to the downfall of the black families? I don't know what this might look like, but there have to be changes in economic and social welfare policies that prioritize keeping families together with their fathers with special emphasis on restoring black fathers to their place in black homes. The real problem is that this is hard work; it took a couple of generations to get here and it will take a long time to get back. So why put in the hard work when the easier path is to demand reparations then watch the white liberals skimming that money grab while nothing really changes for blacks?
     
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    This is straight from the BLM "What We Believe" statement:

    "We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable."

    So BLM actively encourages the breakdown of nuclear families so children can be raised by the collective. It's straight out of the Marxist playbook. Why does no one question these athletes (ie Lebron) about this? Do they even know this language is in the BLM manifesto?
     
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    So let me get this straight... She proceeds to claim that those white females are using their privilege but then proceeds to rant about how she has the dominant genes? And did she just call herself a QUEEN but is flying with Spirit, a budget airline? Lol. These people are delusional. The best part is when a black officer has to escort her ignorant azz outta there and she had nothing to say to him about privilege.
     
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    I don’t know the context of that quote, so I may be wrong. But on its face, that quote is backed by evolutionary neurobiology. Our brains are wired to thrive in a heterogeneous village more than a western idea of a nuclear family. Obviously I’m not suggesting that fatherless families are beneficial. They’re clearly not.
     
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    I come from Australia, and while I cannot appreciate and understand what goes on in the States beyond media coverage, it does feel we have similar issues in Australia.

    Australia is predominantly a Anglo/European country, even more than the US. We are basically, little Britain and Ireland, except post World War 2 migrations have changed the demographics a little.

    The most arrested people in the country are the majority white people, but Native/Aboriginal Australians make up a significant amount of the arrested, imprisoned and died in police custody population. For 3 percent of the overall population to dominate these statistics is insane and unfortunate. But academics cannot wait to blame it on racism and want to create policies to keep people out of prison, even if they are murderers or rapists.

    What I feel we, as Aboriginal people, have in common with the majority of African Americans is this mentality that the police are out to get us. It is something our parents and grandparents told us because it was something their parents and grandparents told them. We (Aboriginal people) even have a word we are taught to about the police from a young age: beware of the 'bully man'. So while all the other children were taught about how the police profession is noble, and that they are our protectors, we grow up thinking they are out to get us. Likewise, we also think the Government is out to get us.

    I have experienced how this 'bully man' has backfired and been counterproductive for me. When I was growing up, I could be walking down a street, and I would be paranoid the police would book me for any kind of half mistake because of the colour of my skin and my heritage. Likewise, if my family were victims of crime, we would think the police did not trust us, so we would not file complaints when victims of crime because the police would be distrusting us or sabotaging our case. We had this mentality they always thought we were criminals.

    As time has gone by, I have actually moved away from blaming everything on colonialism or racism or the past. I feel happier without the paranoia, and have not experienced any racism in life now that I come to think of it. There were times in the past I thought I missed an opportunity because of racism, or that the police were racist, but I was merely conditioned to blame any setbacks in life on others. I was conditioned to blame the events of 100 years ago to justify why I was not getting ahead in life. It would turn out the white majority were actually my best friends ready to bring me up through the hierarchy as fast as possible because I had enough talent, hardwork and good ideas to make it in life. All I had to was show my skills rather than demand I get those opportunities or they must be racist.

    I think there is real racism out there. I believe there are also some terrible thugs in every profession, including the police and military. But overall, I have had positive experiences with the police and Government now that I have got past this paranoia that they were trying to murder me or screw me over or keep me down.

    Words like I have posted do come with backlash. Somebody who is too successful and happy in life will be called an Uncle Tom or lacking compassion for others or brainwashed if they don't bang the same racism and BLM drums. But I do not have the same chains on my arms as my great grandfather did. Instead, I have an opportunity he would have died for. He was legitimately held back because of his race, but what he would want me to do is take advantage of a new world and maximise my opportunities for success. By blaming Governments or white people or the past, I lose my power, confidence and hope to turn my life around. Hence I will eat humble pie when I lose, but get through that pain, and look at how I can bounce back.
     

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