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  1. Slick2021

    Slick2021 - Lakers MVP -

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    Well hell...:Addrinking:"Lebronshame"

    The sentiment that the LEBRON metric is overrated is a common point of debate among NBA fans and analysts, largely because all advanced metrics have inherent flaws and are subject to interpretation. Critics often point out that these statistics are based on formulas that assign value based on the creator's biases and don't always capture the full context of a player's impact on winning.
    Arguments for the Metric Being Overrated
    The LEBRON metric (Luck-Adjusted Expected Plus-Minus, Box, RAPM ON/OFF) is a comprehensive metric from Basketball Index that attempts a holistic evaluation of a player's impact. However, some arguments for why it might be overrated include:
    Contextual limitations: Like other plus-minus based metrics, LEBRON can be influenced by the quality of a player's teammates and the lineups they play with. A player on a consistently strong team might see their metric inflated, while a player on a weak team might have their impact understated.
    Subjectivity in formula: Advanced stats are fundamentally formulas based on what their creators value in the game. Changing the formula can change the results, which leads some to believe they are less "real" than basic box score stats like points and rebounds.
    Perception vs. numbers: The metric can sometimes produce results that contradict the "popular narrative" or what an experienced observer might see on the court, leading to skepticism about its accuracy in specific cases.
    Longevity vs. Dominance: Some argue that LeBron James's overall statistical legacy is largely based on his incredible longevity, rather than single-season dominance in certain metrics compared to other all-time greats.
    Arguments for the Metric Being Useful
    Conversely, proponents argue that the LEBRON metric and others like it are valuable tools for confronting personal biases with data.
    Holistic Evaluation: By combining box score data with on/off court impact (RAPM), the LEBRON metric aims to provide a more complete picture of a player's contribution than any single traditional stat can offer.
    Confronting Bias: Statistics are meant to add nuance to a discussion, pointing to aspects of a player's game that might be overlooked by simply watching games or looking at basic stats.
    Performance at High Level: The fact that advanced metrics often still rank LeBron among the best players even late in his career, when many expected him to decline significantly, is seen by some as proof of his continued elite performance.
    Ultimately, the consensus is that while no single metric is perfect, advanced statistics like LEBRON offer valuable context, but should be used in conjunction with other analysis rather than as the sole determinant of a player's value. You can learn more about how the metric is calculated on the Basketball Index introduction page.
     
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    :LLLLLebronlaughing:
     
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    Thanks Luka for complaining :LLLLLebronlaughing:
     
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    Damn..imagine a torn ACL due to a s***ty court. Do better Lakers!!
     
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    hahahahahahhahahahah. Sent back for repairs?! Hahhahahhahahahahha.
     

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