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  1. Kobeluka99

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    Who’s advising Ballmer????????

    Really at this point. Probably some of the dumbest s*** I heard of.

    West got you out of the Blake Griffin Contract.

    Got you Shai.

    build you that. Keep Shai let kawaii sign with the Lakers.

    keep your assets get Jaylin Williams Carson Wallace. You probably have a couple of championships now and Chet Holmgren.

    or maybe you don’t draft Jaylin Williams. But you have assets and flexibility.

    This Kawaii s*** really f***ed him.


    If the Aspire was just buisness and you were trying to save a company you invested from going under I get it. But this seems insane. This company sounds like s***.

    How much f***ing money does Kawaii need????? Gotta make a 1 million dollar payment. s*** all this seems like to make the payment for Uncle Dennis.

    Don’t get mad at me. I’m just saying this has Uncle Dennis written all over it.

    Uncle Dennis doesn’t want to bother Kawaii for the money which is insane why does he need money he’s Kawaiis manager.

    So he’s calling aspire employees for his payment. They can’t make it cause they’re getting laid off. They are trying to keep their jobs.

    employees go to slimy CEO they need money. He goes to Dennis Wong who makes the payment of 1.1 million for Uncle Dennis.


    This isn’t fact. But I think Steve Ballmer put the 50 million up to pay for expenses and that punk CEO took that 50 million f***ed everybody and they had no money for Kawaii.

    Those employees got pissed and went to Pablo because they were losing their jobs and they were pissed not getting their money.

    Ballmer started getting pissed asking where’s his money at? Why do they need money to pay when I put 50 million up.


    That made the whole thing crash down.
     
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    Trust me I have inside information Ballmer has been part of league circles for a while. He’s always been an owner they wanted.

    Clean

    Deep Pockets

    Tech

    and where the league is at. But Like I said he’s been a guy they wanted. They weren’t like hey Steve come in. But they welcomed his ownership.

    one of the reasons Cuban Vouched for him. This wasn’t a Robert Sarver.
     
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    Sorry but for me to trust you, you are going to have to show some kind of proof that you were connected to a front office. People can say anything on the internet.
     
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    I just saw it reported through Lakers Nation by Trevor Lane.
     
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    If the following is true, could this be a reason Cuban is defending Ballmer.



    One fan suggested the question posed by Torre is “the scariest words in journalism right now.” Others, like Torre himself, wondered why Cuban was getting so heavily involved in an issue that did not concern him.

    Many pointed to Dirk Nowitzki, the Mavericks legend who led the franchise to its first NBA championship in 2011. One user highlighted that in 2014, Nowitzki was offered $92 million deals by the Los Angeles Lakers and Houston Rockets , only to sign a three-year deal worth $25 million to stay in Dallas.

    Cuban was the owner of the Mavericks during the Nowitzki years. He sold his majority stake in the Mavericks to the families of Miriam Adelson and Patrick Dumont in December 2023.


    https://apple.news/AGEUCdpKtRzG_gclVhZFL1A
     
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    I was part of a front office. I don’t have to prove anything. If you don’t believe me that’s fine.

    I don’t have anything to lie about. Steve Ballmer has been trying to get into the NBA way before the Clippers.

    if you think that he just swooped in on the Clippers your way too naive. I’ve been part of Ownership groups.

    Ballmer has been trying to buy a team. I know Ballmer of personally being a great guy. Has nothing to do with this.

    You can’t just get into the league. Ballmers been approved. And when the Sterling thing hit that could’ve lingered. Ballmer got in right away and saved the league from lots of scandal about race.

    Ballmer made the Clippers a team that was viable so to just sit here and think that he’s just gonna be kicked out is a joke.

    Silver wanted him in the league. After he got in Tillman Fertita had to pay a huge price for the Rockets.

    Cuban got huge money for the Mavericks. So there have been other money guys who tried to get in. You look and I can tell you s*** you won’t hear that I know.

    David Geffen was supposed to buy the Clippers. The NBA wanted Ballmer.

    Guys just can’t get in the league. That’s why when they sale it’s a big deal to get in to be one of the owners.

    You’re talking to a guy who’s had open debates with Donald Sterling at parties about players. Fielded calls with Mark Cuban. So I’ve seen the league buisness and have been around ownership buisness.

    I was with LeBron at his camp in San Diego during 2011 and wouldn’t speak a word about league cause I was on the ownership side and was just there for Lebron.

    as far as league stuff I’ve hosted all star Brunches for Steve Nash and BDA bill Duffy’s agency.
     
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    Lol...Abeer's shining example of a player taking one for the team, in order to build out a Championship roster, like LeBron should do. Oh boy, the irony!...I kept saying Dirk was stupid as hell, to leave 60M on the table, maybe he wasn't exactly, as stupid as I thought. Lol..and now Abeer is hot on Ballmer's a** for circumventing the salary cap!

    Hmmm..so the question is...what was Dirk's endorsement deal, around this timeline?

    :Laugh:
     
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    Damn Tony Hawk..you are laying some heavy stuff out on the line here bro. Cookie is like Columbo tho, she comes out of the blue, with quotes from way back, months down the line!

    :Laugh:
     
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    i don't know what happened there. i mentioned him, duncan, and udonis haslem as guys that publicly took less money to stay with their teams and were obviously recovering some on the back end. the difference here is that nobody identified a company that had paid them large sums of money for no-show gigs contingent upon their employment with a specific team.

    in dirk's case, the team overpaid him on the back end of his career (25 million in his last season, when he was already pretty much done) and then hired him in the front office. SA and miami both hired those guys into their front offices, too. these were all (as far as we know) handshake agreements at best between team and player. this isn't the same as what ballmer did with kawhi here, and i'm not sure why anyone is still trying to suggest it.

    repeatedly mentioning that because elon musk can buy us politics means ballmer's actions are legitimate isn't a sensible argument in any form.
     
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    This guy is just posting old reports and stuff you can read on the internet..and it’s always after the fact, I told you so stuff. He doesn’t seem connected in any way, shape or form.

    Some big NBA exec has to come and boast on some little internet board? I haven’t seen one post where he posted something before it happened.

    I became suspicious of this guy when he posted the Suns got a haul for KD lol
     
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    I referred to Musk, as an illustration of the times we are living in. Money does talk, and big money, does so, very loudly.

    There is no smoking gun here man IMO. Folks can jump to conclusions all they want, but it's not as clear and obvious, as you are trying to make it seem. I'm just looking at it from Silver's perspective.

    Ballmer is the 5th or 6th richest person in the world, and he's invested over 4.5 billion into that franchise. He's going to get the benefit of the doubt here. That company was shut down for fraud, they were running a pyramid scheme! That isn't some insignificant fact to be considered.

    They dangled a 330M rights deal, and received over 60M invested from him. Yet they were scamming the entire time. They scammed everyone else, that they dealt with too.

    The Heyena's deal was 28M for 4 years, he's allowed to cut a side deal. That's part of their con, offer him meaningless stock options. They were simply doing that, to bolster the con on the big fish. It worked too IMO, they took in 62M and paid out maybe 21M? That's how pyramid schemes work, pay enough out, to lure other investors in. I don't get why Silver is supposed, to just lock in, on the value of that deal, being soley tied to Ballmer's investment. They were running game!! The whale took the bait, and the Heyena got some cash to help make it look legit.

    Yeah you can say..well he just got schemed, while trying to circumvent the salary cap, but that s*** is a heavy reach. Damn sure is not , some kind of slam dunk. So..I don't see anything happening here.
     
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    the amount of mental gymnastics required to buy ballmer's story is astounding, imo.

    and i'll repeat that they're opening the door for some serious malfeasance if they just look the other way here. ballmer's basically providing a blueprint for circumventing the cap (and the tax). just plead ignorance and sign no official documents connecting yourself directly to the player's outside contract! this is easy.

    i really don't see how the company matters. you could easily execute this same strategy with a successful, legitimate business--which is what i hope mark walter does immediately after silver demurs from punishing ballmer.
     
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    ballmer's basically providing a blueprint for circumventing the cap (and the tax). just plead ignorance and sign no official documents connecting yourself directly to the player's outside contract! this is easy.

    How is that not legal? There are no rules against a company an owner invests in, having an endorsement deal with a player on his team. So what's supposed to be this smoking gun then? He invested 50M in that company, 7 months before this endorsement deal was done. Another 12M was invested 2 years later. The Heyena's deal was for 28M, the stock options are a separate deal, and that's legal too. You can't make a definitive determination, that it's circumventing the salary cap based off off...Well it looks funny. This stuff about what other people were paid, no show etc, are irrelevant. They cut a sweathart deal, because they were scamming the owner in the first place.
     
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    Really you’re just hating. I don’t have to prove anything. And you are lying your a** off. I say what I say yeah Phoenix got a haul.

    Anyway glad you don’t yeah. I’m on the board cause I like the Lakers.

    not gonna prove what I did.

    what you want me to show my Ownership Summer league credential I got from Warren Lagery who created summer league in Vegas or should I show a picture of my front office credential I got for summer league.
     
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    Kobeluka99 is legit until proven otherwise!!! That's my two cents!! Stand your ground my man!

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    because it clearly violates the spirit of the cba. you've made it very clear you don't believe in the spirit of the cap and think cheating is great (as long as you're rich?).

    this is cheating, and that's why everyone but you and ballmer's immediate family are mad about it.
     
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    Anyways Aspire Co-CEO came out and said he signed the Contract with Kawaii says it’s legal. And said Kawaii had obligations if he didn’t meet he would not be paid. Said it was not a no show contract. Nothing to see here. Disgruntled employees.

    like I said Kawahaii had an separate contract by himself and the Clippers had their sponsorship contract with aspire. Steve didn’t know they did another contract with Kawaii.

    So that’s on the open now that’s the paperwork that will be provided.

    Any additional Ballmer put In was to save the company as they were not able to meet a payroll. Very common for a company sponsor. And they kept taking that money he put in to pay employees sandberg was putting it in his pocket.

    Ballmer if he wanted to keep it quiet could’ve just bought the company and paid everybody so the bankruptcy wouldn’t become public.

    But the Co CEO coming out with the Contract will show that this was not a no show. Now if you think there are still improperties then I guess there are. But as far as I’m concerned I think this is a case of fraud.
     
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    Thanks my Brotha.
     
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    yes, the CEO who left the company as kawhi signed the contract trying to wash the stench off himself, personally, isn't super convincing.

    i've already seen this dissected, and he's also getting by on a technicality by claiming that the clause torre points to is standard everywhere and is meant to refer to things like "not making vegetarians eat meat" as part of a sponsorship. it's possible that this guy believed leonard was going to do things when he signed the contract, but...so far nobody has shown that he did anything ever. in that case, he should have not been paid. why was he paid? if these guys were the seasoned fraudsters you guys imply, why ever pay kawhi anything? certainly not when the contract demanded he do something but he didn't. they technically didn't owe him anything if it wasn't a no-show contract. but all they were trying to do is steal, so why steal less?

    so yeah, it still stinks about as much as it did yesterday.
     
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