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  1. KuzmoBall17

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    I am disagree with that part . He's not better than Shaq ,Hakeem or Kareem
    He’s not flashy.. not loud. But make no mistake — skill for skill, he’s already outpacing Shaq, Hakeem, even Kareem. We’re just afraid to say it. Jokic isn’t just the best player in the world — he’s quietly building one of the greatest legacies we’ve ever seen
     
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    Hyperbole much? A legacy of what exactly? Jokic is putting up impressive numbers but so far, other than one good playoff run, I don’t see a legacy. Unless you mean a legacy of nice stats.
     
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    Well Lebron is 40, and Steph is a small guard. 61 10 and 10 would be more impressive for them.
     
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    One can argue that it's just stats, but both in terms of individual and team stats, Jokic is objectively one of the greatest offensive engines ever. He's racking up some historic seasons, though perhaps not "legendary" yet.
     
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    Would you do it?

     
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    Not even for a nanosecond. If they want to even pitch me on Austin, it starts with an unprotected first during their rebuild. Again, I am not moving him and don't want to but to even listen to the pitch, that's where it starts from them.

    I would take a reluctant flyer on Zion. My Offer is expirings (which we have), Dalton, and they can have the abovementioned pick package --a first and a swap. Basically what we traded for Williams before we didn't. I think they can and should get better elsewhere. Zion is still a name. Lot of teams need that more than we do.
     
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    Agree wihth JSM, no way in hell am I making this trade.
     
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    Absolutely not.
     
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    f*** no!
     
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    If LeBron retires
     
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    F no!!! Walking injury.
     
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    Zion arouses anger.

    But if Lebron is helping one guy with his fatness, maybe he can help two.

    :Kobe Shrug:
     
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    Or maybe Zion and Luka can go eat pork fat together for lunch every day. Un-help each other!!!
     
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    You mean like a fat farm thing...? :)
     
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    Culturally, Zion is the opposite of what we want on this team. Luka needs really fit, positive role models around him. Lebron is the perfect example for Luka, where he can see the results of immaculate upkeep. He does not need to be around guys who are already thrilled with their money and could care less about what happens from this day forward. The NBA needs to have a way to NOT pay these kinds of players. If someone does NOT put in the work and is constantly overweight and off the court, then there needs to be a way for a team to lower their pay rate. Something has to give.
     
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    I'd be willing to take a risk on Zion more than others - he's just an unbelievable force when healthy. I'm not sure how anyone could guard a Luka/Lebron/Zion trio - that's just a lot of mass going downhill. Feels like the other team would need a mobile MASH unit after each game

    However, I question the fit with Luka though as Zion can't shoot and his best skills are on the ball. Plus the whole weight thing
     
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    Jokic is great. I have no motive to diminish his greatness. Current best player in the world. Has had two games this season that are at another level. In my book the MVP again (SGA is going to win). But, it has not translated to consistent winning yet. For me, when you are considering legacy, you have to start there. Impact on winning. He still has time. He may yet win a second or third ring. But right now, I have him and Giannis in the same legacy category.

    My hyperbole comment was in response to the idea that he was building a legacy greater than Kareem or Shaq or Dream. IMHO he is not in their category yet.
     
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    Jokic's support is far less than anyone else has had except maybe Hakeem's first title. Murray is good but he's never made an All-Star team. Giannis had both Middleton and Jrue and the weakest set of competition, so IMO Jokic is a step above him legacy wise.

    Kareem and Shaq are great but they won all their titles with Oscar, Magic, Kobe, and Wade all in their primes. This makes the Jokic comparison tough as I think he would be terrifying to play against for example if he had Kobe and Wade playing off his passing/playmaking
     
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    I doubt Kobe would be sitting around waiting for a pass from Jokic. He would have to have the ball in his hands to make that pass and Kobe wouldn't likely allow that. Maybe, but I have my doubts. Same with Jordan and same with Magic.
     

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