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  1. Astros

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    The format is just dumb and the players make way too much money to ever care about an ASG with no incentive.

    The fact is, no matter how many times they lie and say it's an honor to put on a show for the fans, they are lying. They treat the ASG as a way to promote any off-court endorsements, go on vacation with their family, or just rest. And I don't blame them. The NBA allowed the event to get worse and worse every year for decades.

    Solution:

    Idea 1: World vs USA: Each player gets $200k for winning. Make it 15 vs 15 and each player must play a minimum of 15 minutes or something so more players can play without worry of getting injured because only a select few are forced to play 30+ minutes. Sponsors will gladly fork up $3 million because if the game is competitive, people will watch and the sponsors will make their money back. $200k is not chump change at all even though they make millions already.

    Idea 2: Bring back the East vs West format. The winning conference team each get 5 extra wins in their home record which could determine the NBA Finals homecourt advantage. Since every top team will have an All-Star player, there is a huge incentive for the player to try and help their team win. It also increases fan engagement because now, it could potentially decide a significant advantage for their team.

    Idea 3: Just scrap the team event and do 1 vs 1's. $1 million for C/PF, $1 million for SF, and $1 million for PG/SG. Do eight players for each category... So eight centers/power forwards battling it for $1 million, eight SF's battling it for $1 million, and then eight PG/SG battling it for $1 million. First to 11 points (everything is 1 point except 3 pointers count as 2 points), 3 sets of matches to win the prize. You have two hoops out there. Roll out two matches on each hoop. Each match will take under 5 minutes... more than enough time to sell ad slots and make good money just like how the Superbowl do it.

    C/PF: Jokic/AD/Embiid/Wemby/Sabonis/Towns/Giannis/Adebayo

    Small Forward: Kawhi/LeBron/KD/Tatum/Luka/Siakam/Brown/Ingram

    PG/SG: Edwards/Booker/Mitchell/Curry/Kyrie/Shai/Lillard/Brunson


    If $1 million for a couple of hours of work doesn't entice them, nothing else will... In that case, scrap the entire ASG event because these players won't care anymore. And if they're afraid of losing their reputation if they lose a 1v1, so what? Fans would have more respect for them if they're actually putting out good competitive baskeball. NBA All-Star should be the greatest sporting event with 1v1's of all time... Football/MLB are team sports... Basketball could be played 1v1 just like how we all did it growing up.
     
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    Knecht represents the Rising Star on the thumbnail
     
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    All Stars game festivities 3 hours 30 minutes. What about basketball ?

    Only 30 minutes and 27 seconds .
     
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    Just get rid of the whole all star event. Give the players a week off since they dont care. Thank goodness for youtube and get to watch the old all star games in its entirety
     
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    I keep saying the way to fix the all-star game is to make it so you’re not technically an all-star unless you’re on the team that wins. I’d watch under those circumstances.
     
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    That's actually an interesting approach
     
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    some nice status in here for people thinking we may not have a shot at the championship and nice stats on our bench players

     
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    I think the only way to maybe salvage it is the USA vs. World format. I think that's the only shot at bringing some actual competitiveness to the event, because I do think there is some resentment from the American guys that the international guys are generally seen as having taken over the sport.
     
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    Could be pretty one sided depending....

    wonder what those rosters might look like

    but not enough to actually do it myself. But it also would dramatically change what being voted in as an all star means.
     
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    That wouldn’t work either because the “world “ has nothing to play for.
    You do exactly what the NHL is doing .USA,France,Canada round robin with a championship game.Australia could also field a team.Now it’s a country pride thing.You will get real games
     
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    I think Dame suggested doing a game of selected guys verses guys who were snubbed and to be honest I’d definitely give that a chance.

    I was confused by the new format so I watched last night and ended up more confused.

    That was just terrible from more angles than I even want to take the time to break down.
     
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    Kevin O′Connor called the All Stars 2025 the worst in history.
    «Adam Silver should be ashamed.

    I didn’t think that the all stars weekend could get worse, but somehow it got worse. Kevin Hart got more time on TV than the stars themselves. LeBron and Edwards did not play.

    Long breaks ruined the game. In the middle of the final match, TNT takes a 20-minute break. They called the G-League player to save the dunk contest. Adam Silver can't even get Steph to take part in a three-pointer contest in San Francisco. It was the worst Weekend of all stars in the history of », – said a famous expert.
     
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    Well I think the key is getting just one party involved to care. If you could get the American team to care, I don't think the World team would just lay down and lose by 40. It becomes a matter of personal pride. If you can get one team to care, then I think the competitive instinct kicks in. Right now the problem is that everyone has agreed they don't care about it.

    I don't hate the NHL model, but the problem is picking the countries. What you said (USA, France, Canada, Australia) is the most obvious, but do Jokic, Luka, and Giannis just not get to participate in this? That's arguably the three best players in the league right now. Also, I get why it would be Australia over say Serbia, because you can actually fill out a full Australian roster with NBA players which you can't do with Serbia, but we're talking about Giddey/Exum/Daniels/Landale/Josh Green. No Top 50 NBA players. I feel like the international NHL talent is more concentrated, so its easier to say these 4 countries will play each other. I'm also not sure the NHL model would result in the teams caring about it. USA fans and USA basketball participants already don't really care about any non-Olympic international competition.

    I think the core problem is that the spectacle of seeing Star X play with Star Y is less enthralling than it was 20 years ago. Obviously the top-level superstars like LeBron and Kobe were ultra famous, but the second-tier guys like AI or Vince or KG were bigger stars than guys like Shai or Jokic or Giannis are now. And there are a million reasons for that completely unrelated to basketball and having more to do with a loss of common culture in this country IMO. When I was a kid Kobe was my favorite player, but I also had Melo, LeBron, Iverson and Vince posters in my room. Seeing all of those guys on the court at the same time in the All-Star Game, I couldn't really wrap my brain around it. Now it really doesn't feel special to see these guys all on the court together.
     
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    It's not going work.in NHL every player from all 4 teams are playing already in NHL either in USA or in Canada and most of them already all stars .For NBA All- star game nobody would care about some scrub by NBA standards from Australia or France so it's basically FIBA world cup all over again.
     
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    Or, they could just get rid of it and give people time off? Like they actually need the money.
     
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    I will have to admit I haven't seen a full AS weekend in about 20 years. I watch the highlights, mostly some dunks and 3-pt contest and that's it. But this was absolutely awful. Who in the world came up with the idea of giving Kevin Hart all that time? And 30 minutes of basketball? This has become a joke. You can just give the guys a week off to get healthier, maybe spend some quality time with the family... IDK, this was a disaster. I miss the days where those All Stars actually cared about the game of basketball. They still wanted to show they were the best, the MVP meant something and they played actual defense.


    I blame the younger generations. And yes, even LeBron is young compared to me, so there's that.

    Compare please:





    They say modern players are much more skilled, but I'd watch those plumbers from the 90s compete any day of the week.
     
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    It would work because you would have games that the players actually cared if they won or lost and that’s the point of competition.If you don’t want an Australian team them make another team with Joker,The Greek freak and Luka headlining
     
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    I am saying that nobody in San Francisco or at Los Angeles at Clippers New Dome next year or at Phoenix in 27 would pay crazy price for no names at All Star game
     
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    I mean who the H thought this mix of commercials to playing time PLUS stopping the main game for 20 minutes for a tribute to these clowns and TNT was a great idea?????? They deserve every last ounce of bad publicity and articles ripping them they get.

    I’ve got zero problem with Mac McClung as that was an incredible show he put on.
     
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