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I was just going by three-point attempts per game and three-pointers made per game. We are 28th and 27th in those categories. What is factored into 3pt rating? Where do you get that info from?

 

I'm not as worried about the defensive part of the equation, as much as some folks. You can look at the season thus far, and point to some stats, but you have to consider also, that the team today, isn't the same one that came out of training camp.


Russell isn't here anymore, Max has settled more into a defined role. Vanderbilt has just returned, it's going to take some time for his impact to be fully appreciated. I still believe that the Vando/DFS combination, will be a key factor for us by the playoffs.

My thing is, defensive guys,tend to be below average offensive players. This becomes more of an issue, the deeper you go in the playoffs. You must have some reliable scorers too. I'd consider Vucevic, more of a reliable scorer than Rui. The rebounding, floor spacing is also superior. I wouldn't overthink it, Rui is a good young rotation player, but he has some flaws that would be corrected with Vucevic. 5 years from now, yeah Rui will be the superior player, Vucevic will be retired. However right now, the big puts you into a more competitive position, and advancing in the playoffs today, is more important to me, than the hypothetical what might be, after Lebron retires. Make the trade Rob.

 

Yeah. Kessler is definitely target #1


Oh Jonas...Bron might just want you do he can dunk on you in practice

 

https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/three-point-pct

 

Oh, you're just looking at the percentage. That only tells part of the story. Another factor, arguably the most important factor is VOLUME. If you are just looking at percentage than Rui is one of the best three-point shooters in the NBA. That criteria would also put Steph as only the 7th best 3-pt shooter of all time, behind guys like Steve Kerr and Jason Kapono. Boston is arguably the best three-point shooting tea this season, and they are only 12th in percentage, behind teams like Phoenix, Memphis, and Chicago. The good teams that are on that list are likely also high-volume.

 

Damn it! Now they're only 12 South Bay centers left.


Joking. He was really good at shot blocking. Don't think there's much there though based on age and we flooded the team with additional centers throughout the season.

 

I don’t think Turner is gettable. The Pacers will ask for too much because of the whole PG and Turner dealings in the past. Which is a shame because I think Rui, Knecht and 2 firsts is an overpay anyway.

But if we could manage to get him, I would strongly consider Reaves coming off the bench as the 6th man and roll with:

Lebron
Christie
DFS
AD
Turner

Gabe, Reaves, Vando off the bench in the playoffs.

 

Yeah, well accuracy and consistency matter.
If a team as a whole shoots a lot of low percentage threes that could be higher percentage twos, they are just giving the ball back to the other team with empty trips.
I think the analytics of the three point shot will never tell the entire story.

 

Yup, I agree with all of this except for the “overpay” part.
Turner and AD together would dominate on both ends and maybe be the only other duo in the League that could handle Cleveland’s bigs.
I wish it could happen, but it probably won’t.

 

The Bulls shoot the third most and are: 19-17 and in 10th place
The Warriors shoot the fourth most threes and are: 22-23 and in 10th
Nets, 7th most: 12th place
Heat, 8th most: eighth place
Suns, 11th most: eighth place

The volume of threes shot doesn’t always equate to winning basketball.

 

Sure, they do matter. A team cant just be chucking a bunch of threes and not be good at making them. We are 28th in the NBA in three-point volume and makes though. That is just not enough. At least get to 15 or something.

 

I’d go as far to say that Turner and AD are the best big man combination since Gasol, Bynum and Odom. They’re better than Mobley and Allen, they’re better than KAT, Gobert and Naz. Better than Gafford and Lively. You also got Vando or Lebron playing the leftover PF mins who are no slouches.

I would do 2x 1sts, Rui and Knecht to get it done and Pray for health. If we pull it off, I think we’re just too damn big for most of the west. I’d roll like this in the latter stages of the playoffs:

Lebron - 6’9 (36m) / Reaves - 6’5 (12m)
Christie - 6’6 (24m) / Reaves - 6’5 (24m)
DFS - 6’7 (36m) / Christie (12m)
AD - 6’10 (24m) / Vando - 6’8 (24m)
Turner - 6’11 (36m) / AD (12m)

LeBron - 36 mins
Reaves - 36 mins
Christie - 36 mins
DFS - 36 mins
Vando - 24 mins
AD - 36 mins
Turner - 36 mins

We basically got the best defensive PF/C rotation with two 3&D wings in Christie and DFS, Vando as a specialist defensive glue guy and the Lebron and Reaves for shot creation. Gabe, Reddish and Hayes in case of an emergency. I think we knock off OKC in 7 and meet Cleveland or Boston in the final and have a legit shot to win it all.

 

I knew he was going to be good in a more solidified role on a better team, i didn't think he'd be putting up a 20/20 (19... but I'm rounding) game within his first 10 days in Phoenix.

It's tough to evaluate some of these guys who have spent their entire career on a s*** team. There's the worry they've picked up bad habits or got beaten down by 5 years/4 seasons with a poorly ran organization.

 

Vando is essentially going to be replacing Hayes in the rotation. We may look to find a replacement for Rui (probably a center) and Gabe.

 

I think it’s going to be difficult to trade for both a center and a decent backup PG. We don’t really have the assets and there doesn’t seem to be that many targets out there.

I suppose Sexton and Kessler are an option, but I believe if that trade were possible, Rob would have made it (or maybe he will closer to the deadline).

We do know Lebron can play PG in the playoffs, he usually plays Lebron centric offence anyway. So I’d personally prefer a big in a trade. It’s eye opening what Richards is doing, I wonder if there are any other diamonds in the rough out there.

 

Yeah, I'm sure there are. Even Koloko for us has a ton of potential. He is actually a very good offensive rebounder already. I think we probably do the Vucavic deal if it only costs us our two seconds. A team like Toronto to get cut into the deal, and Chicago could get nothing but expiring and seconds. We probably also get someone like Craig in that deal. They clear cap room for next season. Toronto is known to like Rui. Vuc is below average at D, but at least he is a big body. He get 5 rebounds more per game than Rui in the same amount of minutes, and he takes 1 more three-pointer per game than Rui. It's unfortunate that we need a center hen we already have perfectly capable big man in AD already there, but he is sulking. Ideally, we would get Kessler and trade AD, but that is probably not happening. Kessler wouldn't need a second big man to go along with him, like AD apparently does. Yeah, and maybe we end up just keeping Gabe, but we should keep an eye on possibly doing an upgrade. Is swapping Gabe for Ayo enough to up the ante to Chicago from two seconds to an unprotected 1st? Or is there a middle ground some where there. I would like to get Coby White, but it might be too expensive.

 

beware

 

Trade AD? For what? To build around Kessler? FOH